Dear all,

I would like to model the following scenario:

1. The French National Archives have the registration registers of the 
conservatoire from 1822 to 1914.
2. On the physical document classified as "AJ/37/396", we can read that someone 
called "Gisèle Grandpierre" entered the conservatoire on october 17, 1908, and 
studied the harp.
3. It is written that Gisèle Grandpierre is a male student, but my musicologist 
colleagues know that only women studied the harp at that time.
4. We need to model three things:
    - The existence of a student studying the harp is deduced from reading 
document "AJ/37/396".
    - A diplomatic transcription of the gender field: "Male".
    - An interpretative transcription of this gender field: "Female" which 
leads to a gender attribute assignment.

With core CIDOC-CRM entites, I think I can model some aspects of this scenario:

- "AJ/37/396" is a E18 Physical Thing ---[P128 carries]---> E90 Symbolic Object 
(the readable text of the whole registration record, URI: <AJ/37/396_E90>).
- <AJ/37/396_E90> ---[P106 is composed of]---> the field "gender" (URI: 
<AJ/37/396_gender_field>) ---[P190 has symbolic content]---> the string "Male 
». This is a diplomatic transcription, even if it is not made explicit.
- <AJ/37/396_E90> ---[P67 refers to]---> E21 Person (URI: 
<E21_Gisèle_Grandpierre>)
- The E55 Type "female gender" is associated to <E21_Gisèle_Grandpierre> 
through a E13. It is an "interpretative act" that differs from what is written 
in the archives. E13 seems adequate. This E13 acts like an interpretative 
transcription.

But I have two problems:

1) I think this "gender attribute assignment" should be, for sourcing and 
motivation purpose, associated:
    - to <AJ/37/396_gender_field>, to highlight the "error" in the sources
    - to <AJ/37/396_E90> (which express data on the musical course), to 
highlight the fact that <E21_Gisèle_Grandpierre> studied the harp.
    - to higher-level knowledge in the name of which musicologists can infer 
that if someone studied the harp in 1908, then it was a woman…
I don't know how to do it.

2) I don't like the "P67 refers to" predicate between <AJ/37/396_E90> and 
<E21_Gisèle_Grandpierre>, because I think that infering the existence of a 
CIDOC-CRM entity (here, a E21) is the result of an interpretative act, and 
should then be signed by the researcher, motivated and sourced. Do I need 
something like E13 but for "Entity Creation" rather than “Attribute Assignment” 
resulting from a reading? Or did I miss something in the core CIDOC-CRM 
documentation?

I studied CRMtex, and think I can model the diplomatic and interpretative 
transcriptions with it, but I still do not know how to connect the 
interpretative transcription and the fact that a researcher decides to 
postulate the existence of a female student (E21) studying the harp.
Again, associating attributes (here, gender) through interpretative acts to 
this E21 should not be a problem thanks to E13.

And I have the feeling that CRMinf is a bit… too much for this scenario ;)

Many thanks for your insight on this issue.

Thomas Bottini



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Thomas Bottini
Institut de Recherche en Musicologie — IReMus UMR 8223, CNRS



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Thomas Bottini
Institut de Recherche en Musicologie — IReMus UMR 8223, CNRS
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