Dear Thanasi,

This is also my understanding. Basically, we would need properties substantially different from other information objects, and different from audiovisual recordings for a new class, that would express relations not covered by others in the CRM, and essential in these applications. To my understanding, these have not been identified so far.

The question of bird songs that came up is more complex, because it is a type-type relation: species A uses to sing soundtype B.

Another aspect is sound as intangible heritage, very different again.

All the best,

Martin

On 6/15/2021 6:15 PM, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
Maybe we have failed to document the issue in its development but my understanding was that we were looking for use cases from sound arts where a sound piece with distinct identity (for example) has been used as part of another sound piece. The integration would have been required to identify these as related separate entities thus providing an additional argument for the new class. This is different to the typical preservation metadata documented for audio recordings or performances.

All the best,

Thanasis

On 15/06/2021 10:24, George Bruseker wrote:
I imagine I'm running fast at windmills here but I already prepared a homework for this several sigs ago in which I list dozens of collections of sounds. There is documentation and research on sound in CH.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziNlZNCAYxAATNP7jycBPKT-v9Rhg4RUHt4dlpPS4-c/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziNlZNCAYxAATNP7jycBPKT-v9Rhg4RUHt4dlpPS4-c/edit>

What exactly are we searching for in this issue?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 5:29 PM Дарья Юрьевна Гук via Crm-sig <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

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    Dear colleagues,

    the examples of cataloguing the audiovisual information exist, and
    an expert gave it me:
http://www.dapx.org/showservices.asp?ID=1003&fbclid=IwAR1MoBC2u07qVOGw5X3z2nZRjiu64SYAWDt6PQx-qlG8bRmmqkpPlo2srkE
<http://www.dapx.org/showservices.asp?ID=1003&fbclid=IwAR1MoBC2u07qVOGw5X3z2nZRjiu64SYAWDt6PQx-qlG8bRmmqkpPlo2srkE>
    Details: Chinese standard includes 25 positions of metadata (code of
    archive, its category, level of invenorisation, unique identifier,
    file numver, name of the scan creator, date of digital copying, date
    of the next conversion/migration, permission, notes, address of real
    location, original носитель, mode of digital copying, copying
    device, software and OS, name of file, size of file, format, video
    parameters, audio paremeters etc.)

    Something similar was  proposed for the Russian archives.

    With kind regards,
    Daria Hookk

    Senior Researcher of
    the dept. of archaeology of
    Eastern Europe and Siberia of
    the State Hermitage Museum,
    PhD, ICOMOS member

    E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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    https://hermitage.academia.edu/HookkDaria
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