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From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> On Behalf Of Eleni Tsouloucha via Crm-sig Sent: March 11, 2025 7:25 AM To: Schmidle, Wolfgang <wolfgang.schmi...@fu-berlin.de> Cc: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] E-VOTE About the relationship between symmetry and transitivity (iss.686) Attention This email originates from outside the concordia.ca domain. // Ce courriel provient de l'extérieur du domaine de concordia.ca Dear all, Do you agree with substituting the current phrasing concerning transitivity and symmetry in CIDOC CRM v7.3 for the one proposed by Martin, Wolfgang, and Christian-Emil? Namely: the bullet point under Naming Conventions that now reads: * "Properties that have identical domain and range are either symmetric or transitive. Instantiating a symmetric property implies that the same relation holds for both the domain-to-range and the range-to-domain directions. An example of this is E53 Place. P122 borders with: E53 Place. The names of symmetric properties have no parenthetical form, because reading in the range-to-domain direction is the same as the domain-to-range reading. Transitive asymmetric properties, such as E9 Period.P9 consists of (forms part of): E4 Period, have a parenthetical form that relates to the meaning of the inverse direction." would become: * "The names of symmetric properties have no parenthetical form, because reading in the range-to-domain direction is the same as the domain-to-range reading. An example of this is E53 Place. P122 borders with: E53 Place. See the definition of "symmetric" in the section "Terminology"." The motivation is that the wording found under Naming Conventions in V7.3 is inaccurate, and the reason to delete the reference to transitive, asymmetric properties, seeing as the information is repeated in the Terminology section --see definitions therein. Please reply by yes, no, or N/A by March 22. All the best, Eleni On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 9:14 PM Schmidle, Wolfgang via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr<mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>> wrote: > Am 28.10.2024 um 18:53 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig > <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr<mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>>: > > The names of symmetric properties have no parenthetical form, because reading > in the range-to-domain direction is the same as the domain-to-range reading. > An example of this is E53 Place. P122 borders with: E53 Place. See the > definition of "symmetric" in the section "Terminology“. I think this version is clear and gets to the point. Best, Wolfgang _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr<mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://cidoc-crm.org/crm-sig-mailing-list -- Eleni Tsouloucha Philologist - MA Linguistics & Language Technologies Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory - Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Address: N. Plastira 100, GR-70013 Heraklion, Grece email: tsoulo...@ics.forth.gr<mailto:tsoulo...@ics.forth.gr>, eleni.crm....@gmail.com<mailto:eleni.crm....@gmail.com> Tel: +30 2810391488
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