On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:10 AM, Tom Rini <tr...@konsulko.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 05:30:55PM +0100, Grant Likely wrote:
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Mark Brown <broo...@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 09:01:05PM +0530, Amit Kucheria wrote:
>> >> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz
>> >
>> >> > Solution for existing SoCs is usually adding 1MB of SPI flash during 
>> >> > design
>> >> > phase of device and store boot loader(s) there. But it is so expensive
>> >> > someone would say when it is in 10-30 cents range...
>> >
>> >> > Even 96boards CE specification totally ignored that fact while it could 
>> >> > be a
>> >> > way of showing how to make popular board. Instead it became
>> >> > yet-another-board-to-laugh (EE spec did not improve much).
>> >
>> >> > Is there a way to get it improved? At least for new designs?
>> >
>> >> Yes! I've added this suggestion to a list of suggestions for evolution
>> >> of the 96boards spec.
>> >
>> > We already went round the houses repeatedly on that one :(
>>
>> It's not so dismal as all that! With the board size and price point
>> the CE spec aims at, it is very unlikely that vendors will build
>> boards with a separate storage device for FW.* However, by and large
>> these platforms will be built with eMMC and eMMC has a separate boot
>> area that is logically separate from the main pool. We can add a
>> requirement for future versions to boot from the boot area when
>> booting from eMMC.
>
> Saying that supporting the eMMC boot partitions shall be bootable AND
> documenting how the various relevant EXT_CSD flags need to be set be
> public is important.  It won't do everyone good if you can't program the
> board to boot from the boot partition.

Yes, of course. This is definitely an aspirational item. It doesn't do
any good for current SoCs that already have the boot scheme fixed, but
it is a place where we can put pressure on vendors for what to do in
future SoCs.

g.
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