Thomas,

 

You are certainly not the only one seeing performance issues with 4.2. I go 
back and forth between 4.2 and 3.8 every day depending on the project I need to 
work on and the difference is quiet noticeable even on very fast hardware. The 
part I notice the most is the lengthy close all editors process. After drilling 
down into some task and opening a few dozen editors, clearing workbench of open 
editors takes several seconds. I can literally watch tabs disappear one by one. 
The same operation is practically instantaneous on 3.8.

 

For stability, user experience and performance reasons, you will find that many 
third party distros have stayed on 3.8 for Juno. 

 

I don’t begrudge 4.x its growing pains. It is a complex technological shift 
with a lot of promise. What I find most troubling is the decision process that 
led to the use of 4.2 for Juno distros. When the decision was made, it was 
plainly evident that 4.2 wasn’t going to match 3.8 on any of the quality 
metrics. IDE users might have been ok with quality drop if 4.2 delivered 
compelling new functionality that you couldn’t get in 3.8, yet there is no 
tangible functional delta. The value of 4.x platform is for RCP developers and 
to certain limited extent for IDE plugin developers. Certainly not for IDE 
users. The refreshed look-n-feel has been touted as a big end user feature of 
4.2, but the new look-n-feel itself has numerous issues that leave it looking 
like an unfinished project.

 

Sadly, the user reaction that we’ve been seeing over the last several months 
has been entirely predictable.

 

- Konstantin

 

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of zhu kane
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 12:58 AM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Performance, 3.8 versus 4.2

 

It's an issue not always reproducable. 

I never meet such problem in my environments. But I know somebody has similar 
problem.

Bug 385272[1] is a known report.

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385272

Kane



On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Thomas Hallgren <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

For various reasons I had to switch my development environment from 4.2 to 3.8 
today. I was stunned by the performance improvement after the switch. The 3.8 
platform is much MUCH faster. It boots faster, it closes windows faster, it 
shows menus faster, etc. It also seems to consume less memory and be less 
buggy. The way things stand right now, there's just no way I'll switch back to 
4.2!

I must say I was very surprised by this. Why is the 4.2 platform what's being 
fronted on the Eclipse download page when it's user experience and quality is 
lagging behind this much? Is it just me who have had this experience?

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren

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