On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM, David M Williams < [email protected]> wrote:
> > was this decision mentioned on this list ? I wasn't aware of it and > > also can't find > > an announcement in the cross list's archive. > > > > This means we'll ship EGit 3.1 not with Kepler SR1 but from our own > > updates site > > since 1 month before SR1 already passed. > I meant 1 month before RC1 > I'm not sure what to say. Sorry for not communicating better? Or, I assume > Planning Council reps communicate with the projects they represent? Or, > when did you think the deadline was? > I just want to learn how to prevent that I miss such decisions in the future. And I'll try to find our PC rep to find out why he didn't tell us. > Or, should I say, remember we had to delay Juno SR2 by one week, for the > first time ever, due to some last minute problems due to a project with > late feature contributions, no rampdown plan, no incremental participation > in release candidates, etc? That's why the rule was put in place. It is > important we are on time, and it is important our quality improves each SR; > no new problems introduced. That "rule" is the best concrete thing we could > come up with to help ensure that. It was not a spur of the moment decision, > but discussed over several meetings, with plenty of opportunity for > Planning Council reps to solicit feedback and give advice. > > If interested, some history in > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=401639 > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/February_22_2013 > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/March_06_2013#Juno_SR2 > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/March_24_2013 > thanks for the pointers > All that said, I should (again) remind everyone there is an "exception > process" > > http://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Requirements#Planning_Council_Exception_Process > If you were missing the deadline by a day or two, I'm sure there'd be no > problem getting an exception, > but if you are planning on releasing and contributing right before RC4 > then pretty sure you would not get one. > > There is no shame at all in releasing from your own project's repository > on your own schedule, if that better suits your team. Its often a better > approach for some. that's exactly what we will do for the next EGit release 3.1. And I will create another pure maintenance release to ship a few fixes with Kepler SR1. But, to participate in Simultaneous Release requires something more ... we > have to be well "coordinated" with each other, to meet the expectations of > users and adopters. > > So, I have decided ... I will just say, my personal apologies for not > communicating this new rule better, and in a more timely fashion. I > understand how you might have made different plans if you had known about > it earlier. I hope its not too much extra work for you to adjust your > plans, one way or another. Thanks for your contributions to Eclipse. yeah, we had different plans, but, well, no big damage occurred, we can change our plans to comply with the PC's decision. -- Matthias
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