BTW, yes this is a consequence of moving to Mars.1. So is getting Gradle 
support into Eclipse now and not in 9 months. In the big picture, we figure it 
works out to a net benefit to our users and adopters.

Doug.

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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:35 AM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Announcing a one week slip in the 
Mars.1 release (from 9/25 to 10/2)

Ed,

The reason for the change from Mars SR1 to Mars 1 is because this is how we've 
been doing it for years. Many people (EGit / JGit, Mylyn, CDT -- to name a few) 
had been putting minor releases in the release train during the SRs. I ran some 
numbers last year, and > 1000 Installable Units had incremented their minor 
version number between SR0 and SR2. This means, assuming people are following 
the version guidelines, that up to 1,000 bundles had already been adding new 
API between SR0 and SR2.

Changing the name of the train just means we are acknowledging what was already 
happening.

Cheers,
Ian

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ed Willink 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
HI

Surely this is the inevitable consequence of Mars.1 rather than Mars SR1?

SR1 required each component to be a safe upgrade so that exact release timing 
was irrelevant.

Mars.1 is a new release so users must get to see the co-ordinated new release 
in one go rather than incrementally. If A.1 pulls in B.1, but C uses B, users 
of C are in a mess until they get C.1.

    Regards

        Ed Willink



On 24/09/2015 05:26, Gunnar Wagenknecht wrote:
David,

Am 23.09.2015 um 23:37 schrieb David M Williams 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
If not obvious, this means all participants in "coordinated release train" 
should not make your releases visible on 9/25, but wait until 10/2 10 AM to 
make them visible, and announce your official releases.
This seem unnecessarily restrictive. I don't bother with the announcement part. 
However, I don't recall there is something in the process that requires project 
to wait publishing the release bits. Not making them visible could have a huge 
effect on a project's adopter community.

-Gunnar


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