I'm neither for or against this. I do agree the communication was late. It
probably would have been better to not tell us at all :).

I do see the need for recognizing individual installs though. Tracking IP
address as we've done to date hides a lot of data behind corporate
firewalls that present a single address for all their employees.

I think it's critical we know how many individual users are using Eclipse.
Is Eclipse usage really on the decline? Are all those downloads legitimate
users or are they bots? I see a lot of statements made from the Eclipse
community assuming one way or the other. I would be great to be able to
call them out with real numbers.

Doug.

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Gunnar Wagenknecht <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ian,
>
> I agree with two concerns raised so far:
>
> - communication way too late in the cycle
> - opt-out instead of opt-in
>
> I do understand that opt-in renders the feature pretty much useless.
>
> On 04 Jun 2016, at 13:42, Ian Skerrett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We have no interest or plans to profile actual individuals. We are looking
> at aggregate data.
>
>
> I'm trying to understand why a UUID is necessary when you are looking at
> aggregate data. Do you have some sample reports/analysis for sharing? I'm
> really unable to connect the pieces of that puzzle. Maybe an example can
> help me understand.
>
> Also, have you investigated using an anonymized (hashed version) IP
> address that is sent by the clients anyway? Splunk should well be able to
> handle that.
>
> I also suggest to learn from history:
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Chrome-to-Remove-Unique-ID-137535.shtml
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/16/google_chrome_unique_identifier_change/
>
> I bet they still have that UUID. But that's a use case I could understand.
> Even though I don't think that a UUID is really necessary to confirm
> successful installations/updates of a product.
>
> -Gunnar
>
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