I don't understand why the API tooling recommended a major increment since 
there was no breaking change — they were all API additions.

Given that it's been in place for 10 days, my vote is to recover from the 
mistake and fix the version number.

Brian.


> On 13-Mar-2017, at 6:07 AM, Simon Scholz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> from my side I´ve just been following the checks of the API Base Line tooling 
> accroding to the changes in the generated code of the MUiFactory class.
> So at least we should add the noimplement flag to the MUiFactory to avoid 
> further major version increments due to the missing noimplement flag.
> But for now I think we should stick to the version increment to avoid 
> breaking clients who might have implemented MUiFactory, which anyways is 
> unlikely.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Simon
> 
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Ed Willink <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Chaotic major versions seem undesirable, so since the major version has not 
> yet made it to +4 on any milestone it seems appropriate to revert it; 
> preferably for M6, but certainly for M7.
> 
> We aggregate to find inconsistencies. We found one, the platform was wrong, 
> the platform should correct, not everyone else.
> 
> Note that if the platform fails to revert, downstream projects that offer 
> multi-release compatibility must forever remember to specify an irregular 
> 1.0.0,3.0.0 range for this plugin.
> 
> Note also that if PDE requires a major version change it usually means you 
> should revise your code to avoid the major version, not just throw a major 
> version to make the irritating error go away.
> 
> Note also again that major version chnages should be announced so       that 
> consumers and experts have an opportunity to comment in a more timely fashion.
>     Regards
> 
>         Ed Willink
> 
> On 11/03/2017 16:52, Daniel Megert wrote:
>> Thanks Tom!  That was my thinking too. So, that class should be marked as 
>> @noimplement in the model, because next time, PDE Tools will again ask the 
>> developer to increment the major version.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, at this point, reverting the major version increase seems to 
>> do more harm than having a few bundles adjust their dependency. If someone 
>> disagrees, please let us know asap.
>> 
>> Dani
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From:        Tom Schindl <[email protected]> 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> To:        Cross project issues <[email protected]> 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Date:        11.03.2017 17:35
>> Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Problems with Simrel 
>> contribution        re: org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench
>> Sent by:        [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Under NO cricumstance this API is/has/should be implemented by clients! IIRC 
>> it should be called at by none e4 internals. So this version increase is 
>> just plain wrong!
>> 
>> Tom (guy who was in charge of the model)
>> 
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>> 
>> Am 11.03.2017 um 16:22 schrieb Daniel Megert <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> 
>> You're right Ed. At least in the SDK there's no re-export of that bundle.
>> 
>> Dani
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From:        Ed Willink <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> To:        [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Date:        11.03.2017 11:01
>> Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Problems with Simrel 
>> contribution
>> Sent by:        [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Correction. I misread the icons in the Plugin dependency view. Nothing 
>> in my workspace re-exports org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench, so a major 
>> version change should be a simple MANIFEST.MF update for consumers.
>> 
>>    Regards
>> 
>>        Ed Willink
>> 
>> On 11/03/2017 08:58, Ed Willink wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > On the one hand, this looks like the normal excitement that occurs 
>> > when a plugin has a major version increase; every consumer must follow 
>> > suit on its dependency bounds. However it is surprising that no 
>> > announcement has been made, particularly so close to M6.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, there are many plugins that re-export 
>> > org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench and so they too must also incur a 
>> > major version increment. org.eclipse.ui.ide is one of them and I doubt 
>> > we want a major version increment there.
>> >
>> > Presumably a typo then. I suggest nobody apart from the platform team 
>> > reacts.
>> >
>> >     Regards
>> >
>> >         Ed Willink
>> >
>> > On 11/03/2017 08:19, Eike Stepper wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> It appears that https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/88492/ 
>> >> <https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/88492/>incremented the 
>> >> major version of the org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench plugin. There 
>> >> are some other commits in the context of 
>> >> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=484398 
>> >> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=484398>but none of them 
>> >> seems to justify a major version increment. Maybe I overlooked 
>> >> something historic that justifies it. Is it justifiable that the 
>> >> major version of this plugin was incremented, and if so, what is the 
>> >> justification?
>> >>
>> >> At this point it looks as if clients just need to increment their 
>> >> upper bound.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> /Eike
>> >>
>> >> ----
>> >> http://www.esc-net.de <http://www.esc-net.de/>
>> >> http://thegordian.blogspot.com <http://thegordian.blogspot.com/>
>> >> http://twitter.com/eikestepper <http://twitter.com/eikestepper>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 11.03.2017 um 03:24 schrieb Evgeny Mandrikov:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm forwarding the following thread of discussion since seems that 
>> >>> previous messages were not delivered to the list - "being held until 
>> >>> the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is 
>> >>> being held: Too many recipients to the message"
>> >>>
>> >>> And an update on subject:
>> >>> EclEmma has been re-enabled to unblock work of Andreas Sewe on 
>> >>> https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/84521/ 
>> >>> <https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/84521/>
>> >>> Papyrus really seems to be a cause of a problem, because after 
>> >>> re-enablement all builds are still green.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Evgeny
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> >>> From: Evgeny Mandrikov <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>> >>> Date: Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:46 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: Problems with Simrel contribution
>> >>> To: Grégoire DUPE <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, Sravan 
>> >>> K Lakkimsetti 
>> >>> <[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>,[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>, [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
>> >>>  <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>, [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>, 
>> >>> Frederic Gurr 
>> >>> <[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>> >>> Cc: Cross project issues <[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> FWIW I come to exactly the same conclusion.
>> >>> And so tried to confirm by re-enabling EclEmma - 
>> >>> https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/92766/ 
>> >>> <https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/92766/>, validation build successful - 
>> >>> https://hudson.eclipse.org/simrel/job/simrel.oxygen.runaggregator.VALIDATE.gerrit/391/console
>> >>>  
>> >>> <https://hudson.eclipse.org/simrel/job/simrel.oxygen.runaggregator.VALIDATE.gerrit/391/console>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:24 PM Grégoire DUPE 
>> >>> <[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>     Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>>     It’s looks like that the problem comes from 
>> >>> ‘org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.widgets’ which has the following dependency
>> >>>     : org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench [1.2.0,2.0.0) (cf. the error 
>> >>> message at the end of this e-mail)
>> >>>
>> >>>     Can anybody from Papyrus check that ?
>> >>>
>> >>>     Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>     Grégoire
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot complete the install because of a conflicting dependency.
>> >>>
>> >>>     Software being installed: validationSet_main 1.0.0
>> >>>
>> >>>     Only one of the following can be installed at once: 
>> >>> [org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench 2.0.0.v20170228-1842,
>> >>>     org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench 1.3.0.v20170105-1239]
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: 
>> >>> mappedRepo_download.eclipse.org_eclipse_updates_4.7milestones_S-4.7M6-201703082000
>> >>>     1.0.0 depends on: org.eclipse.platform.ide 0.0.0
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: 
>> >>> mappedRepo_download.eclipse.org_modeling_mdt_papyrus_updates_milestones_3.0_M5_main
>> >>>     1.0.0 depends on: org.eclipse.papyrus.sdk.feature.feature.group 
>> >>> 3.0.0
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: 
>> >>> org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.widget.feature.feature.group 
>> >>> 3.0.0.201702011724 depends on:
>> >>>     org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.widgets [3.0.0.201702011724]
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.widgets 
>> >>> 3.0.0.201702011724 depends on: bundle
>> >>>     org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench [1.2.0,2.0.0)
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: 
>> >>> org.eclipse.papyrus.sdk.feature.feature.group 3.0.0.201702011724 
>> >>> depends on:
>> >>>     org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.widget.feature.feature.group 
>> >>> [3.0.0.201702011724]
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: org.eclipse.platform.feature.group 
>> >>> 4.7.0.v20170308-2000 depends on: org.eclipse.ui.ide
>> >>>     [3.13.0.v20170306-1626]
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: org.eclipse.platform.ide 
>> >>> 4.7.0.I20170308-2000 depends on:
>> >>>     org.eclipse.platform.feature.group [4.7.0.v20170308-2000]
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: org.eclipse.ui.ide 
>> >>> 3.13.0.v20170306-1626 depends on: bundle
>> >>>     org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench [2.0.0,3.0.0)
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: validationSet_main 1.0.0 depends on:
>> >>> mappedRepo_download.eclipse.org_eclipse_updates_4.7milestones_S-4.7M6-201703082000
>> >>> [1.0.0]
>> >>>
>> >>>     Cannot satisfy dependency: validationSet_main 1.0.0 depends on:
>> >>> mappedRepo_download.eclipse.org_modeling_mdt_papyrus_updates_milestones_3.0_M5_main
>> >>> [1.0.0]
>> >>>
>> >>>     Only one of the following can be installed at once:
>> >>>
>> >>>       Eclipse Workbench Model 2.0.0.v20170228-1842 
>> >>> (org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench 2.0.0.v20170228-1842)
>> >>>
>> >>>       Eclipse Workbench Model 1.3.0.v20170105-1239 
>> >>> (org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench 1.3.0.v20170105-1239)
>> >>>
>> >>>     bundle(org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench 2.0.0.v20170228-1842) 
>> >>> is required by:
>> >>>
>> >>>     ValidationSet(main)
>> >>>
>> >>>     Contribution(Eclipse)
>> >>>
>> >>> MappedRepository(http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.7milestones/S-4.7M6-201703082000/
>> >>>  
>> >>> <http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.7milestones/S-4.7M6-201703082000/>)
>> >>>  
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>     Product(org.eclipse.platform.ide)
>> >>>
>> >>>     InstallableUnit(org.eclipse.platform.feature.group 
>> >>> 4.7.0.v20170308-2000)
>> >>>
>> >>>     InstallableUnit(org.eclipse.ui.ide 3.13.0.v20170306-1626)
>> >>>
>> >>>     bundle(org.eclipse.e4.ui.model.workbench 1.3.0.v20170105-1239) 
>> >>> is required by:
>> >>>
>> >>>     ValidationSet(main)
>> >>>
>> >>>     Contribution(Papyrus)
>> >>>
>> >>> MappedRepository(http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/papyrus/updates/milestones/3.0/M5/main
>> >>>  
>> >>> <http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/papyrus/updates/milestones/3.0/M5/main>)
>> >>>  
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>     Feature(org.eclipse.papyrus.sdk.feature.feature.group 3.0.0)
>> >>>
>> >>> InstallableUnit(org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.widget.feature.feature.group 
>> >>> 3.0.0.201702011724)
>> >>>
>> >>>     InstallableUnit(org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.widgets 
>> >>> 3.0.0.201702011724)
>> >>>
>> >>>     *De :* Sravan K Lakkimsetti [mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>]
>> >>>     *Envoyé :* vendredi 10 mars 2017 11:33
>> >>>     *À :* [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>>     <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> >>> [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>;
>> >>>     [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> >>> [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>;
>> >>>     [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>>     <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>;
>> >>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; Grégoire DUPE 
>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>>     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>; 
>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>;
>> >>>     [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> >>> [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>;
>> >>>     [email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> >>> Frederic Gurr <[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>>     <mailto:[email protected] 
>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>> >>>     *Objet :* Problems with Simrel contribution
>> >>>
>> >>>     Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>>     I am doing simrel contribution for 4.7 M6 for platform and 
>> >>> equinox. During this process. I found that the
>> >>>     following projects are not compatible anymore. I have disabled 
>> >>> these projects with my contribution. My request is
>> >>>     to re-enable them during your contribution to 4.7 M6.
>> >>>
>> >>>     The projects that were disabled.
>> >>>
>> >>>      1. EclEmma
>> >>>      2. ECP
>> >>>      3. EMF CDO
>> >>>      4. EMF COMPARE
>> >>>      5. EMF Parsley
>> >>>      6. MoDisco
>> >>>      7. Papyrus
>> >>>      8. Sphinx
>> >>>
>> >>>     Thanks and Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>     Sravan
>> >>>
>> >>>     Sravan Kumar Lakkimsetti
>> >>>
>> >>>     IBM India Pvt Ltd,
>> >>>
>> >>>     Embassy Golf Links Business Park, D Block,
>> >>>
>> >>>     Off Indiranagar-Kormangla Inner Ring Road,
>> >>>
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>> >>>
>> >>>     Phone: 91-80-41776858
>> >>>
>> >>>
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