Jonah,

That's a great point.  I think we can do something smart here:

When a user hits https://eclipse.org/documentation/ we could examine the
referer, and add some text at the top of the page to indicate the user
has requested older docs, with a suggested link to the same doc on the
latest install.

That will help newer docs rank on search engines, help de-list older
docs, and still provide service to the user.

We should also verify that we are sending a 301 Permanent redirect, not
a 302 Temporary one.

If you think this makes sense, I think next step is a bug.


Denis


On 2019-12-13 9:25 a.m., Jonah Graham wrote:
> Hi Fred,
>
> I think it is great to get rid of the old documentation - indeed the
> other day I did a google search and didn't realize I was looking at an
> old version of the documentation.
>
> That leads me to my issue with removing - and I don't have a solution,
> just a concern. Googling or duckduckgoing many eclipse topics have
> help.eclipse.org/kepler <http://help.eclipse.org/kepler> in the
> results (some have neon). What is the effect on SEO of just removing
> kepler? Will all relevant search results from google just disappear
> making it harder to find information until google and the like re-rank
> the results higher?
>
>  Almost all the results work if kepler is just replaced with 2019-09
> (or 2019-12 or latest presumably).
>
> I see in the time that I have been writing the email that
> help.eclipse.org/kepler <http://help.eclipse.org/kepler> has
> disappeared - the effect that it is harder to find the results because
> the search within infocenter is not as good as google.
>
> Thanks
> Jonah
>
>
>
>
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders
> www.kichwacoders.com <http://www.kichwacoders.com>
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 08:22, Frederic Gurr
> <frederic.g...@eclipse-foundation.org
> <mailto:frederic.g...@eclipse-foundation.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     To further streamline our services and reduce maintenance overhead we
>     will no longer host info centers at https://help.eclipse.org that are
>     older than two years (or 8 quarterly releases).
>
>     For older releases people will be advised to run the infocenters
>     locally
>     by downloading the corresponding Eclipse IDE (Eclipse SDK or EPP
>     package) from
>     * https://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ or
>     * https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/
>
>     How to start or stop information center from command line:
>     *
>     
> https://help.eclipse.org/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Fguide%2Fua_help_setup_infocenter.htm
>
>     People trying to access old infocenter URLs will be forwarded to
>     https://www.eclipse.org/documentation
>
>     Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Fred
>
>     -- 
>     Frederic Gurr
>     Release Engineer | Eclipse Foundation Europe GmbH
>
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