Hi, I wouldn't call this a fine link or good coverage. The link efers to an Neon infocenter from 2016/2017. So it's completely outdated. As stated in the bug, the goal is to have the /latest/ links in the Google index and not content from random old versions.
We will try to put redirects in place to avoid confusion and "dead ends". Regards, Fred On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 16:05 Lars Vogel, <lars.vo...@vogella.com> wrote: > Just Googled for the Oomph Git setup tasks which resulted in this fine > link: > > > https://help.eclipse.org/neon/topic/org.eclipse.oomph.setup.doc/javadoc/org/eclipse/oomph/setup/git/GitCloneTask.html > > Clicking on it, brings me to: > > https://www.eclipse.org/documentation/ > > So currently it looks like we lost our good Google coverage of Eclipse > help. > > Best regards, Lars > > P.S. will also add this to the bug > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 3:57 PM Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> > wrote: > > > > Done https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=558301 > > > > Probably needs better component, please change component as you see fit. > > ~~~ > > Jonah Graham > > Kichwa Coders > > www.kichwacoders.com > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 09:49, Denis Roy < > denis....@eclipse-foundation.org> wrote: > >> > >> Jonah, > >> > >> That's a great point. I think we can do something smart here: > >> > >> When a user hits https://eclipse.org/documentation/ we could examine > the referer, and add some text at the top of the page to indicate the user > has requested older docs, with a suggested link to the same doc on the > latest install. > >> > >> That will help newer docs rank on search engines, help de-list older > docs, and still provide service to the user. > >> > >> We should also verify that we are sending a 301 Permanent redirect, not > a 302 Temporary one. > >> > >> If you think this makes sense, I think next step is a bug. > >> > >> > >> Denis > >> > >> > >> On 2019-12-13 9:25 a.m., Jonah Graham wrote: > >> > >> Hi Fred, > >> > >> I think it is great to get rid of the old documentation - indeed the > other day I did a google search and didn't realize I was looking at an old > version of the documentation. > >> > >> That leads me to my issue with removing - and I don't have a solution, > just a concern. Googling or duckduckgoing many eclipse topics have > help.eclipse.org/kepler in the results (some have neon). What is the > effect on SEO of just removing kepler? Will all relevant search results > from google just disappear making it harder to find information until > google and the like re-rank the results higher? > >> > >> Almost all the results work if kepler is just replaced with 2019-09 > (or 2019-12 or latest presumably). > >> > >> I see in the time that I have been writing the email that > help.eclipse.org/kepler has disappeared - the effect that it is harder to > find the results because the search within infocenter is not as good as > google. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Jonah > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ~~~ > >> Jonah Graham > >> Kichwa Coders > >> www.kichwacoders.com > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 08:22, Frederic Gurr < > frederic.g...@eclipse-foundation.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> To further streamline our services and reduce maintenance overhead we > >>> will no longer host info centers at https://help.eclipse.org that are > >>> older than two years (or 8 quarterly releases). > >>> > >>> For older releases people will be advised to run the infocenters > locally > >>> by downloading the corresponding Eclipse IDE (Eclipse SDK or EPP > >>> package) from > >>> * https://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ or > >>> * https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/ > >>> > >>> How to start or stop information center from command line: > >>> * > >>> > https://help.eclipse.org/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Fguide%2Fua_help_setup_infocenter.htm > >>> > >>> People trying to access old infocenter URLs will be forwarded to > >>> https://www.eclipse.org/documentation > >>> > >>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Fred > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Frederic Gurr > >>> Release Engineer | Eclipse Foundation Europe GmbH > >>> > >>> Annastr. 46, D-64673 Zwingenberg > >>> Handelsregister: Darmstadt HRB 92821 > >>> Managing Directors: Ralph Mueller, Mike Milinkovich, Gaël Blondelle > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > >>> cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or > unsubscribe from this list, visit > >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > >> cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > >> cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > > -- > Eclipse Platform project co-lead > CEO vogella GmbH > > Haindaalwisch 17a, 22395 Hamburg > Amtsgericht Hamburg: HRB 127058 > Geschäftsführer: Lars Vogel, Jennifer Nerlich de Vogel > USt-IdNr.: DE284122352 > Fax (040) 5247 6322, Email: lars.vo...@vogella.com, Web: > http://www.vogella.com > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
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