On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:05 PM, venugopal iyer wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Cesar Delgado wrote:
> 
>> Venu,
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, venugopal iyer wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, Cesar:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Cesar Delgado wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Venugopal,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry if these sounds like basic questions.  I really appreciate the 
>>>> patience and the help.  Replies in-line.
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:29 AM, venugopal iyer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, Cesar:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Cesar Delgado wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm setting up a server to go to a hosting site where I have a 1Mbps 
>>>>>> pipe.  From what I read I know I can't set the limit to this as the 
>>>>>> lowest setting is ~1.2Mbps and this is something that's getting worked 
>>>>>> on in Crossbow2.  I am seeing some strange behavior.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FIrst I have a question on flowadm's show-usage command.  When I try to 
>>>>>> run show-prop with the name of a flow I get an error.  The flow exists.  
>>>>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> root at myhost:~# flowadm show-usage -f /var/log/net.log http-flow
>>>>>> flowadm: invalid flow: '(null)'
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a bug, I have submitted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 6904427 flowadm show-usage doesn't work with a flow name
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for submitting that.  I haven't been able to find a link to the 
>>>> bugtracker for Crossbow.  Could you please send me the URL?
>>> 
>>> I think it should show up on
>>> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/index.jsp soon.
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, now for my problem.  I have the following setting:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> root at myhost:~# flowadm show-flowprop http-flow
>>>>>> FLOW         PROPERTY        VALUE          DEFAULT        POSSIBLE
>>>>>> http-flow    maxbw               1.228      --             1228k
>>>>>> http-flow    priority        medium         --             medium
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I ran a test hitting the webserver and I see this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have the following flow
>>>>> 
>>>>> # flowadm show-flow FLOW        LINK        IPADDR                   
>>>>> PROTO  LPORT   RPORT   DSFLD
>>>>> tcp-flow    <link>      --                       tcp    --      --      --
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> # flowadm show-flowprop tcp-flow
>>>>> FLOW         PROPERTY        VALUE          DEFAULT        POSSIBLE
>>>>> tcp-flow     maxbw               1.228      --             1228K tcp-flow 
>>>>>     priority        --             --             ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I send TCP traffic (am using a traffic generator - netperf, to
>>>>> this machine from a peer) for about 2 mins.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the peer the traffic generator (sender) says I am capped to about
>>>>> 1.14 Mbps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput bytes  bytes   bytes    secs. 
>>>>>    10^6bits/sec
>>>>> 
>>>>> 49152  49152  49152    120.49      1.14
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, when I try show-usage during the traffic flow on
>>>>> the machine with the above flow in place (receiver), I am seeing:
>>>>> 
>>>>> # flowadm show-usage -s 11/24/2009 -f /var/tmp/tcpflow
>>>>> FLOW         START         END           RBYTES   OBYTES   BANDWIDTH
>>>>> tcp-flow     08:51:48      08:52:08      3428658  107802       1.414 Mbp
>>>>> tcp-flow     08:52:08      08:52:28      3431198  107802       1.415 Mbp
>>>>> tcp-flow     08:52:28      08:52:48      3434614  107888       1.417 Mbp
>>>>> tcp-flow     08:52:48      08:53:08      3443298  107802       1.420 Mbp
>>>>> tcp-flow     08:53:08      08:53:28      3444324  107802       1.420 Mbp
>>>>> tcp-flow     08:53:28      08:53:48      1376806  43576    0.568 Mbps
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the difference you see is likely to be because of the time
>>>>> period when the stats are written to the file (the bandwidth is computed 
>>>>> for every 20 seconds period which might not be exactly in
>>>>> sync with the bandwidth enforcement period in the kernel) and also
>>>>> could be because of rounding up etc. But, if you look at the  entire
>>>>> duration, it averages to about the configured limit (in the above
>>>>> example, I think it is about 1.275 Mbps for the 2 min duration)
>>>> 
>>>> The way I'm testing it is setting up Apache and then moving down a file 
>>>> with `wget`.  The use case for this machine is an Apache based app that 
>>>> serves large files to customers.  That is why I think a `wget` is more 
>>>> telling of "real" performance than netperf.  I'm running the test again 
>>>> and on the client side I am seeing usage over the maxbw limit I have set.  
>>>> `wget` is reporting about 2Mbps transfer rate which is much closer to what 
>>>> I was seeing in the show-usage statistics.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> [cdelgado at Bluegene tmp]$ wget sol/myfile.dat
>>>> --10:01:30--  http://sol/myfile.dat
>>>> Resolving sol... 192.168.69.104
>>>> Connecting to sol|192.168.69.104|:80... connected.
>>>> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
>>>> Length: 1048576000 (1000M)
>>>> Saving to: `myfile.dat'
>>>> 
>>>> 5% [==>                                                      ] 55,530,974  
>>>>  267K/s  eta 60m 44s
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, setting a maxbw for a link (dladm) doesn't really impact the
>>>>> flow as the bandwidth for both are independent.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for this clarification but I still don't understand how I can be 
>>>> seeing ~2Mbps transfer if both the link and the flow are both capped at 
>>>> 1.2Mbps.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you try with a higher bandwidth, say 100 Mbps and see what the results
>>> are when compared to wget's output?
>>> 
>>> Also, another way of manually checking would be to do a
>>>     # kstat -c flow -n http-flow
>>> 
>>> before and after the wget run and see how many bytes (rbytes) the
>>> kernel has seen for that flow (assuming there isn't any other traffic
>>> going over the flow), and then determine the bandwidth (you might need
>>> to get the duration of the wget run pretty close to get the
>>> right bandwdith value).
>>> 
>>> -venu
>> 
>> I changed the flow to be 100Mbps.
>> 
>> root at myhost:/tmp# flowadm show-flowprop -p maxbw http-flow
>> FLOW         PROPERTY        VALUE          DEFAULT        POSSIBLE
>> http-flow    maxbw             100          --             100
>> 
>> I also removed the maxbw=1.228 I had set on the link.  When I changed this 
>> value on the link I lost all network to the machine.  Had to go in and 
>> manually reboot it.  The network came up fine.
>> 
>> I created two files one before wget and one after with no other network 
>> traffic except the ssh session.  I created a 1 GB file to transfer.  The 
>> output is a bit confusing to me.
>> 
>> root at myhost:/tmp# ls http-flow-*
>> http-flow-1.txt  http-flow-2.txt
>> root at myhost:/tmp# cat http-flow-*
>> module: unix                            instance: 0
>> name:   http-flow                       class:    flow
>>      crtime                          188662.418688816
>>      ierrors                         0
>>      ipackets                        4680
>>      obytes                          182520974
>>      oerrors                         0
>>      opackets                        127521
>>      rbytes                          308138
>>      snaptime                        189431.882363589
>> 
>> module: unix                            instance: 0
>> name:   http-flow                       class:    flow
>>      crtime                          188662.418688816
>>      ierrors                         0
>>      ipackets                        31262
>>      obytes                          1281785975
>>      oerrors                         0
>>      opackets                        895533
>>      rbytes                          2062678
>>      snaptime                        189595.122347726
>> 
>> So this means the network only passed ~1.6 MB of data?
> 
> is this on the outbound side or inbound?
> 
> looks like it has a total of 8794120008 bits in the outbound side (obytes) 
> and 14036320 bits on the inbound (rbytes). What is the duration
> 93 seconds? So the outbound would be ~94 Mbps and inbound 150 Kbps.
> 

Sorry, outbound.  I was looking at the wrong row.  With the flow set at 50 I'm 
getting getting ~37 Mbps.  In my mind the flow is not respecting the value I'm 
giving it.  With the maxbw set to 100 I could get ~80 Mbps and now I'm only 
seeing ~37Mbps.   Could it be something in the way Crossbow is averaging the 
actually bits and bytes going down the pipe or is it me not understanding the 
system?

root at myhost:/tmp# flowadm show-flowprop http-flow
FLOW         PROPERTY        VALUE          DEFAULT        POSSIBLE
http-flow    maxbw              50          --             50 
http-flow    priority        medium         --             medium 

root at myhost:/tmp# cat http-flow-*
module: unix                            instance: 0     
name:   http-flow                       class:    flow
        crtime                          188662.418688816
        ierrors                         0
        ipackets                        32346
        obytes                          1300129135
        oerrors                         0
        opackets                        908351
        rbytes                          2133486
        snaptime                        191261.607310645

module: unix                            instance: 0     
name:   http-flow                       class:    flow
        crtime                          188662.418688816
        ierrors                         0
        ipackets                        85361
        obytes                          2399401106
        oerrors                         0
        opackets                        1676468
        rbytes                          5632604
        snaptime                        192621.873203347


[cdelgado at Bluegene tmp]$ time wget sol/myfile.dat
--13:52:20--  http://sol/myfile.dat
Resolving sol... 192.168.69.104
Connecting to sol|192.168.69.104|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1048576000 (1000M)
Saving to: `myfile.dat'

100%[==========================================================>] 1,048,576,000 
4.06M/s   in 3m 44s 

13:56:04 (4.46 MB/s) - `myfile.dat' saved [1048576000/1048576000]


real    3m44.364s
user    0m1.042s
sys     0m24.065s



> 
>> 
>> The wget command was telling me it was getting ~80Mbps which is under the 
>> threshold of the flow.
>> 
>> [cdelgado at Bluegene tmp]$ time wget sol/myfile.dat
>> --13:21:49--  http://sol/myfile.dat
>> Resolving sol... 192.168.69.104
>> Connecting to sol|192.168.69.104|:80... connected.
>> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
>> Length: 1048576000 (1000M)
>> Saving to: `myfile.dat'
>> 
>> 100%[==========================================================>] 
>> 1,048,576,000 10.5M/s   in 93s
>> 
>> 13:23:23 (10.7 MB/s) - `myfile.dat' saved [1048576000/1048576000]
>> 
>> 
>> real 1m33.701s
>> user 0m0.899s
>> sys  0m23.874s
>> 
>> Maybe a value of 100Mbps is too high for this machine.  I might try with 
>> 50Mbps to see what wget says.
>> 
> 
> OK,
> 
> -venu
> 
>> -Cesar
>> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> root at myhost:~# flowadm show-usage -s 11/23/2009,01:32:22 -e 
>>>>>> 11/23/2009,01:46:22 -f /var/log/net.log | grep -v "0 Mbps\|^FLOW"
>>>>>> http-flow    01:32:22      01:32:42      1512     2571     0.001 Mbps
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:32:42      01:33:02      1818     3578     0.002 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:33:02      01:33:22      66917    3165136      1.292 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:33:02      01:33:22      3618     5344     0.003 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:33:22      01:33:42      117947   5713018      2.332 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:33:22      01:33:42      4182     3020     0.002 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:33:42      01:34:02      118998   5685520      2.321 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:33:42      01:34:02      11616    9924     0.008 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:34:02      01:34:22      117084   5725664      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:34:22      01:34:42      119130   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:34:42      01:35:02      114180   5725168      2.335 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:35:02      01:35:22      109230   5725664      2.333 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:35:22      01:35:42      116160   5725168      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:35:42      01:36:02      119262   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:36:02      01:36:22      119196   5725664      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:36:22      01:36:42      117216   5725168      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:36:42      01:37:02      119394   5722636      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:37:02      01:37:22      119526   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:37:22      01:37:42      119460   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:37:42      01:38:02      119460   5725664      2.338 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:38:02      01:38:22      119724   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:38:22      01:38:42      119724   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:38:42      01:39:02      119130   5722636      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:39:02      01:39:22      118866   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:39:22      01:39:42      116490   5725664      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:39:42      01:40:02      119790   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:40:02      01:40:22      117678   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:40:22      01:40:42      118668   5725664      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:40:42      01:41:02      117414   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:41:02      01:41:22      119790   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:41:22      01:41:42      119813   5720510      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:41:42      01:42:02      119394   5725664      2.338 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:42:02      01:42:22      119724   5722272      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:42:22      01:42:42      119526   5725664      2.338 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:42:42      01:43:02      119196   5722140      2.336 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:43:02      01:43:22      119394   5725664      2.338 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:43:22      01:43:42      119658   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:43:42      01:44:02      119064   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:44:02      01:44:22      113256   5676668      2.315 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:44:02      01:44:22      18414    49646    0.027 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:44:22      01:44:42      118206   5725664      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> http-flow    01:44:42      01:45:02      117282   5722140      2.335 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:44:42      01:45:02      4698     3544     0.003 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:45:02      01:45:22      118536   5688284      2.322 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:45:02      01:45:22      4092     3198     0.002 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:45:22      01:45:42      119130   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:45:22      01:45:42      1980     1478     0.001 Mbps
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's above the flow's maxbw parameter.  After that I tried to change 
>>>>>> the  maxbw of the link with dladm and that brought the bandwidth down 
>>>>>> but still not down to 1.2 Mbps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> root at myhost:~# dladm show-linkprop -p maxbw e1000g0
>>>>>> LINK         PROPERTY        PERM VALUE          DEFAULT        POSSIBLE
>>>>>> e1000g0      maxbw           rw       1.228      --             --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> root at myhost:~# flowadm show-usage -s 11/23/2009,01:46:02 -e 
>>>>>> 11/23/2009,01:46:22 -f /var/log/net.log | grep -v "0 Mbps\|^FLOW"
>>>>>> http-flow    01:46:02      01:46:22      119394   5725168      2.337 Mbp
>>>>>> ssh-flow     01:46:02      01:46:22      4680     2980     0.003 Mbps
>>>>>> http-flow    01:46:22      01:46:42      94314    4520316      1.845 Mbp
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any ideas or is there a subtlety that I'm missing and the behavior is 
>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Cesar
>>>>>> 
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