George, I am glad to know what that sound was... It was very common in my rex while I was trying to get it to start...I wan't freaked out by it, but I was curious to what it was! LOL!
I will be addressing the battery issue tonight...and I will be double checking the ground... thae body on the car has been weatherguard treated with that spray stuff, but the engine bay has some bad corrosion on parst left untreated ie: oil pan, engine mounts, etc... I'm sure that the ground is bad now that you mention it... maybe some nice 6ga. power cable to an old car sterio will do the trick with some nice beefy aftermarket battery terminals (yeah...overkill, but it's a confidence booster) Thanks for explaining that uurgle for me...I'm glad my MSD solved all my problems for my rex...maybe a MSD is in order for this civic hatch too.... (I am really impressed with the MSD, and to add, that it's such a universal part that If anything were to happen to the civic, I can use it on prectally any car!) -M >From: "George Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Mark Humphreys'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: "CRX Mailing List \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: DX electrical problem..Oh oh.. >Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:41:40 -0400 > >Mark, > > >I know that "Urrrgle" noise all too well -> it's the sound of gas firing in >a cylinder with the piston at/near bottom dead center. Open your >distributor cap (with your hand under it to catch the screw) and check the >rotor. I'm willing to bet the screw holding the rotor slipped out, a >common >problem with the after-market rotors (not OEM). Put the screw back into >the >rotor and lock it down with a dab of silicone. > >Most likely your battery was on its last legs and shorted out from the >repeated cranking. Get a new battery and make it a nice oversized one >(mine's a hefty 850 CCA unit). Then thoroughly clean all terminal >connections to the battery and inspect the negative cable -> a weak area is >the puny negative battery cable where it has a ground bolt to the frame >behind & below the passenger headlight at the frame. I found several years >ago this cable was completely brittle (crumbled in my hand) so I replaced >it with two 8-gauge copper lines (redundancy + better conductivity). > > >George >'89 DX-Hybrid-D16Z6, 120k miles >"Seats, Suspension, Engine, MSD rocks!" > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On >Behalf Of Mark Humphreys >Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:26 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: CRX: DX electrical problem..Oh oh.. > > >In case anyone isn't familiar with my latest mechanical demon that I'm >battling, I just replaced the head gasket, and timing belt on a 90 Civic >hatch (Dx model).. > >I had a good/bad night last night: I got everything together, all the >fluids >in the car, all the plugs hooked up, and yada yada, I wanted to try and >start her, turned her over once; nothing[it cranked, but it didn't fire..my >friend said that he smelled burned gas]. Tried again; it turned over, and >it >made a funny Urrrgle noise sort of like a drainpipe sucking that last bit >of >water...then I tried to test for spark, (by putting a screwdrive to the >contact in the wire, and putting it near a valve cover bolt, to see the >arc) >and there was a funny rumble/pop that I don't even remember hearing, but I >felt...9it happened whe I went to turn the key forward to "start"...the key >was already in the "on" position, and it was clicked forward to try and >start it)....then all of the electrical accesories on the car stopped >working...everything, as if the battery wasn't even in the car, completely >black, no lights, beeps, or anything...I checked all the fuses, and they >all >look fine (both fuse boxes, under the hood, and under the dash) I have no >idea what could have happened, unless the (old) battery finally gave up the >ghost. Also, there was no check engine lights given, so I'm assuming that >all the sensors are properly in place. > >I hope that this was enough information to help get an idea of what >happened..if not, I will try and expand on specific questions, but thats >the >best description I can give. Oh yeah, also, I NEED to replace the banjo >washer thingies on the fuel filter...I must have lost one when I >reinstalled >the fuel line....so it was leaking a little (dangerous? yes, but I had my >trusty fire extinguisher..but I'm going to be replacing them before I touch >the car today) ;) >Any help would be much appreciated. >TIA >-M > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
