I had a neighbor who had an early '60s corvair- great car but the exhaust on yours sounds like it would've lifted the rear end when it launched! I suspect the police are caught up in the ever changing technology of sound systems and exhaust systems the after-market is making available. Once the law gets passed, it's potentially obsolete, so officer's discretion is still valid.
I too am pushing 40 (three yrs. to go- woohoo!), 3 kids, two dogs, etc. The CRX will probably last at least as long as my sons can participate in the next rebuilt motor installation, perhaps 10 years from now. I can only hope that good guidance on my part keeps my sons from creating these "angry Civics" that are driving around (two categories: all show/no-go or "I've slammed it/hacked it/jury-rigged it and it definitely sounds like a lawnmower on four wheels"). George '89 DX-Hybrid-D16Z6, 123k miles "Seats, Suspension, Engine, MSD, next=dyno" -----Original Message----- From: Lee & Tracy Grimes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:23 PM To: George Freeman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CRX: Future California Noise Laws The more vague a law is, the more it can be molded to fit a situation. Better define it and it can become a limitation to all sides. I'm not to worried about myself as except for the racecar, there seems to be an inverse proportion between my age and the loudness of my street car. Tone is important to me but the older I get the less loud they become. In early college, I had a Corvair with homemade duals that had less than 18 inches of 2.5 inch pipe each and the shortest straight through turbo cans I could find. There was less than 6 inches of straight pipe after the cans so it was real "braaacky" and trumpeted if you booted it hard. It was hard to keep all the multiple one barrel carbs balanced and not running rich so when I lifted or downshifted from high throttle angles, it would lick several inches of blue or orange flame out the tips. Great for pizza delivery and scarrying the crap out of unsuspecting coeds on the sidewalks at night. Now I am pushing 40 with a kid, neighbors and a quieter car. By no means silent, but quieter. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Lee & Tracy Grimes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: RE: CRX: Future California Noise Laws > Lee, > > I had an interesting discussion about this topic with a local sheriff here > in Florida. Basically, he described how the state is busy trying to mandate > standards with measurable db limits for both stereos and exhaust, but as it > stands, the "official numbers" are caught up in a bureaucratic mess. Put > simply, were the official numbers be put in place, it would require the > police officer to have a measuring device and lock-in a reading to use as > evidence in court later. As it stands (indefinitely is seems), the current > law says "officers discretion" for noise disturbance. > > > George > '89 DX-Hybrid-D16Z6, 123k miles > "Seats, Suspension, Engine, MSD, next=dyno" > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Lee & Tracy Grimes > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CRX: Future California Noise Laws > > > I'll bet all places have a noise restriction of some kind but often have no > way or choose not to enforce it. In more vehicularly uptight states like > California, I'd guess it is used much more often. Or it can be used to add > things to the list if an officer decides for some reason to stack citations > on you. Since SEMA works on behalf of car part manufacturer's including > exhaust companies, I expect that so long as you have a reasonable sound this > certificate is a benefit to you so you can show Mr. Officer Sir that your > car is compliant and save you a ticket. It is also an opportunity to find > out if your car is near or over the limit so you can correct it to the legal > standards without a cop and a fine to point it out to you. > > I'd think if you have had that much attention in a short span, it is because > you really are pushing the limits and it is only a matter of time until you > get popped. Because judgement or perception is based on their ears and no > hard facts, the cards are stacked against you. I know in some parts of > Cincinnati, there are fines for loud car stereos and that is based on the > officer's ears so you know full well there is an exhaust sound level too. > > I know there used to be police officers who read or lurked this list. If > one is out there, you might be able to enlighten us on general sound laws > and enforcement. > > Lee > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: CRX: Future California Noise Laws > > > > Is this a good or bad thing? I assume it would be bad if the majority of > our cars are actually illegal with regards to our intake header exhaust > setups. If we are not lound in regards to the law then it would be good > because we could hand the certificate to the cop when he or she asks for all > our information. just curious because I am in ohio, not much like this goes > on out here, although everywhere seems to have a major dislike for the > import crowd. > > > > Just last night, through the nicer areas of the Cleveland suburbs such as > Westlake, Bay Village, Rocky River and so on. I must have had 3 our of the > 4 or 5 cops I saw turn around when they saw me and follow me. I stayed under > the speed limit and drove streight. They never pulled me over but it was > just shitty because I had been pulled over the night before for no plate on > the front of my car. No ticket thankfully. > > sorry for such a long one > > > > Brandon > > >
