I'm a mac user.  I've been one all my life and will
never switch to a PC.

aj =)

--- Allen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> everyone should be a mac user, they're not secretive
> about the source 
> code, because they encourage others to program their
> own stuff.  Anyway 
> I'm a big nerd that likes his mac.  Just something
> to think about.  Ok 
> I'm gonna crawl back in my hole and keep reading
> your e-mails.  Oh and 
> in response to that kit that someone posted today,
> it's cool.  I 
> wouldn't mind having it, but I don't have money and.
> . . well. . . I 
> probably piece my body kit together from what ever i
> find in the 
> junkyards.  Now you are ready for me to shut up.  so
> I will.
> On Monday, Dec 16, 2002, at 11:58 US/Central, Henry
> Bonath wrote:
> 
> > This question has been asked several times over
> the past few days, and
> > personally my Email/AIM has been bombarded with
> people asking me what 
> > the
> > status is.
> >
> > I just pulled this off of the CRX Performance
> forum.
> > This is per Steve Jones:
> >
> > "The Resource is down for the count. I don't have
> much information to 
> > go
> > on at this time. I have to guess we were hacked.
> We have a backup
> > server, but I'm not keen to deploy it as it has
> the same software 
> > build as
> > the current server. It'll only get hacked again.
> >
> > Toward the end, I tried security through
> obscurity. I couldn't update
> > some critical packages on the server to plug known
> vulnerabilities. I
> > turned off some services and moved others to high
> ports, hoping to 
> > avoid
> > the script-kiddie autorootkits. It worked for a
> time. In spite of that,
> > I think our OpenSSH was trojaned. I was able to
> log into the server 
> > using
> > SSH, even though *MY* SSH daemon was unavailable
> for comment.
> >
> > In spite of my best efforts, I couldn't update
> some of the software on
> > the server. Intel built a tidy little package,
> replete with bells and
> > whistles, and sporting a dandy web-based
> management console. They also
> > thought enough to hook everything together to a
> central watchdog -- and
> > that was my undoing. Anything I compiled for the
> system caused the
> > watchdog to hiccup and reboot the server -- over
> and over again. I was
> > stuck.
> >
> > Intel provided no relief. I contacted them earlier
> in the year,
> > requesting access to the source for the code they
> modified. A large
> > majority of the software they used was covered by
> the GNU Public 
> > License,
> > so this should have been a no brainer. They
> declined, in violation of 
> > the
> > various authors' copyrights.
> >
> > But enough sob stories and finger pointing. The
> server is down, and I'm
> > responsible. I regret the inconvenience, and I'm
> hard at work building 
> > a
> > maintainable suite of software packages on the
> backup server. The
> > Resource will be down for some much needed
> renovation over the 
> > holidays.
> > Look for us sometime after the New Year. We won't
> look any different on
> > the showroom floor, until you pop the hood.
> >
> > -Steve Jones"
> >
> > I hope this answers some questions.
> > -Henry
> >
> >
> 


=====
GS CRX

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