--- Stingray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmm.. well this last message probably came from somebody with a full
> body
> kit, triple decker wing and 18 inch wheels, if not im just joking
> anyways

Nope, the only thing not stock you can see on my car is my wheels and
my Thermal exhaust. Just because I'm tolerant of the Ricer subculture
doesn't mean I have aspirations to be like them. My car will keep it's
stock body and color because *I* think it looks best that way.

> ever go to a car show and there are cops everywhere?

Whenever large groups of people gather in one place there is a chance
for stupid things to happen. Add illegally modified cars and the fact
the majority of the crowd is 18-24, and there is a REASON the cops are
there. Cops ARE NOT there because fast and the furious came out.

> but its movies like this that promotes street racing,

Every time a movie comes out, it promotes interest in it's subject.
Signs = interest in crop circles, Jurrasic Park = interest in
dinosaurs, etc etc etc. It always happens. But the thing is, about 6
months after the movie is out, the interest starts to die off. Same
thing happened with F&F. Sure, after I saw it and left the theater, all
you could hear in the parking lot was screeching tires and revving
engines. I thought it was HILARIOUS to see the pick-em-up trucks in
hick-ville Texas putting the pedal to the medal because they just saw
F&F. But shortly after it was back to the same old thing. Sure you see
an occasional 4-door accord roll by with 17's and some lame vinyl
graphics, but if this dude is happy and thinks his car is so much
faster, so be it! We all know its slow, and the fact it is means he
can't get in that much trouble! Would you rather this same lamer Ricer
be driving a twin-turbo Supra doing 180 down the freeway???

> there were lebarons going down the street racing tempos, along with
the v8 guys and the imports

Hilarious! I bet it was just like that story where the Fiesta races the
Metro and the bicycle passes them.

> this movie gives us bad names, ricers are only the beginning

I'd say for about 2-3 months it gave us a bad name. There were the TV
news segments and the newspaper expose articles (I still have a copy
somewhere of the one that came out in the Austin American Statesman
that featured people I knew). BUT... by now, Joe Public has forgotten
about F&F, beyond "oh yeah that movie with the orange car and Vin
Diesel".

I know this is a sore subject among those who consider themselves
"real" racers (thought most of us are amatuer weekend racers AT BEST),
but people... it was just a movie. It was entertaining. There were some
good chase scenes, there were some good stunts. The women were fine and
the guys were studly. The story was cheesy, but it gave the filmmaker a
way to feature what people wanted to see. It HAPPENED to feature cars
which weren't made in America. Give it a break.

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