Using the heat gun probably was the fastest way I got the material
physically off the car but the smoke and smell of the burning tar material
was really bad.  Since you are taking it off the floor with hand tools, you
do tend to have your face pretty close over top.  Of course I didn't have a
big fan nearby to move air quickly through the car or probably even have the
car outside when I did this.  Maybe a little ventilation and some airflow
would make it less toxic.  Butr after a little inhalation and oxygen
deprivation, you might not be thinking that clearly anyway.

Lee


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Bocskor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "CRX Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:58 AM
Subject: CRX: RE: RE: Re: Removing black rubber mat?


> How about lots of heat? It's been a while since I've seen this done (one
of
> my friends ripped out ALL of it on his old 89 Si), but with a heat gun,
I'm
> prety sure it turns to goo you can pull off more easily.
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Ryan
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:06 PM
> To: 'Lee & Tracy Grimes'; 'danny'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CRX: RE: Re: Removing black rubber mat?
>
>
> I have done 2 cars before and the way I did them was using a heavy plastic
> scraper/ chisel and hammering it at an angle.  This way it did not damage
> the paint under the "tar".  I then used bug and tar remover for the
> remaining little bit left.  It is a lot of work like Lee says and is only
> worth a few pounds.  There are easier ways to reduce weight.
> I am on a diet.  I figure I can loose 10 Lbs by summer!
>
> Ryan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Lee & Tracy Grimes
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:42 PM
> > To: danny; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: CRX: Re: Removing black rubber mat?
> >
> >
> > This is something that we have to do with the racecars and is
> > a real pain in
> > the butt.  There are several ways of doing it.  Basically it
> > is a felt or
> > fibre material soaked in resin and tar that is applied hot
> > and self sticks
> > to the metal when it cools, there really does not appear to
> > be a seperate
> > adhesive below.
> >
> > You can use a heat gun and get it gooey again and scrape with
> > a putty knife
> > but you will get a lung full of some nasty smelling, smoky
> > stuff that can't
> > be healthy.  Been there, inhaled that.  Several people
> > suggest that you let
> > it get super cold and get brittle and chip off again with a
> > putty knife or
> > screw driver or bash it with hammer.  Depending on where you
> > are in the
> > country and how cold your winter is, I have heard letting the car sit
> > outside over night can work.  I have done all of mine mine in
> > the summer so
> > I'd go to the local welding supply store and buy blocks of
> > dry ice and let
> > the stuff freeze the tar to make it brittle for chipping.
> > Not as easy as it
> > might sound but it does work.   I have not found a chemical
> > solvent yet that
> > does a decent job however paint thinner or lots of brake
> > cleaner will soften
> > the small remaining smudges enought to be wiped away after
> > the majority of
> > the stuff has been removed by other means.
> >
> > Any way you do it, it is not easy work and takes many hours
> > of elbow grease.
> > Very slow going but you will get there.  After doing four or
> > five cars like
> > this, I don't know any better methods.  When done, the
> > material is gone but
> > you have lots of little scrapes in the paint below from the
> > metal tools so
> > you will need to repaint the floorboard.  I have usually
> > found that all that
> > material is worth only about 6 lbs. or so of weight savings.
> > I have never
> > stripped the underside of the car but am told that under
> > coating is a softer
> > material and a very high pressure washer with hot water or
> > steam strips it
> > best.
> >
> > If anyone has any easier or cleaner way, I'd sure like to
> > hear it.  It is
> > probably the most unpleasant parts of stripping a car.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "danny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:11 PM
> > Subject: CRX: Removing black rubber mat?
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone have any clue on how to take out the black
> > rubber matting
> > > underneath the carpet.  Its an 89 si, and im trying to
> > strip the whole
> > > interior down to the metal, but that stuff seems like its
> > cemented to the
> > > frame.  Any tips, thanx, danny.
> > >
> >
> >
>


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