On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 06:33:43PM +0200, Hadmut Danisch wrote: > Some say a principal is someone who participates in a cryptographical > protocol.
The way I see it, the common English sense is "direct participant, not a third party". During TGS requests the Kerberos KDC is a *principal* in the TGS transaction. Soon after, the acquired ticket and session key are used to communicate with the intended service and the KDC is then a third party and not a *principal*. So with Kerberos the word hasW its narrower "named security entity" technical meaning. With X.509 one tends to talk of "subjects", "issuers", "registration authorities", "certification authorities", ... and the word "principal" is less common. > Can anyone give me some hints? Maybe about how 'principal' is related > to Roger Needham? Or whether there is a precise and general > definition? Seems to be mostly a matter of perspective, on the wire single-sign-on systems authenticate principals, while in the OS or application server ACLs authorize subjects. Oddly enough the difference in terminology better reflects the power balance between the royal "issuer" and petty "subject" in X.509. Wild guess, perhaps more seriously this dates back to X.509 as a supporting technology for X.500 ACLs. In the context of Kerberos, I think of principals as living in an external global (or at least potentially larger) namespace, while subjects or users in ACLs are often local system specific entities. This means that one often needs a mapping from principals (global naming) to subjects/users (local naming). So principal != account. -- /"\ ASCII RIBBON NOTICE: If received in error, \ / CAMPAIGN Victor Duchovni please destroy and notify X AGAINST IT Security, sender. Sender does not waive / \ HTML MAIL Morgan Stanley confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]