On 4/10/13 11:17 AM, Peter Gutmann wrote:

Trying to get back on track, I think any attempt at TLS 2 is doomed.  We've
already gone through, what, about a million messages bikeshedding over the
encoding format and have barely started on the crypto.  Can you imagine any
two people on this list agreeing on what crypto mechanism to use?  Or whether
identity-hiding (at the expense of complexity/security) should trump
simplicity/security 9at the expense of exposing identity information)?

Au contraire! I think what we have shown is that the elements in dispute must be found in the competition. Not specified beforehand.

Every proposal must include its own encoding, its own crypto suite(s), its own identity-hiding, and dollops and dollops of simplicity.

Let the games begin!

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