On 2011-09-14 4:31 AM, Seth David Schoen wrote:
https://www.senate.gov/

which had a valid cert a while ago and then recently stopped.

A system that gives false negatives is worthless. It has to be sufficiently reliable that it makes sense to deny access.

Of course, a system where one has to interact with a third party to be certified will always give frequent false negatives, requiring the option to click through, and thus training users to click OK on sight.

Skype also gives you the option when a stranger you have never interacted with before wants to talk to you, but in the skype case, the criterion is sufficiently reliable that users get trained to click deny on sight.
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