Well, that was a long post, Marsh!

I think it is a good perspective. And it occurs to me that if this is a real problem there might be a real solution.

I suggest going to NIST and asking them to run a design competition for a hardware cell that produces good entropy. Hardware designs aka cells aka asics aka idk what they call them are often standardised products these days. You pull one from a library, lay it in a corner, connect up the lines on your CAD tool and you're done.

Our problem is what to design, what to layout, and how to make it good?

NIST have done well with the competition technique. AES was a good thing, it brought in 30 designs and the world's cryptographers in one goal to find the best of the best.

Either way ... where the expertise is unclear and the problem is real and definable and also of widespread interest, a competition for a design might get the grey matter churning. EEs get to play this time!

NIST recently produced a new standard for PRNGs that kicked out the entire entropy question. The goal is a deterministic PRNG, testable and repeatable. It took me a while to figure it out, but this separation from the old "all-in-one" thinking over to entropy source plus deterministic mixer is quite inspired. Point being, they solved half the problem; they'll be open to the other half?

iang


On 23/02/12 08:55 AM, Marsh Ray wrote:
On 02/22/2012 09:32 AM, Thierry Moreau wrote:
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