On May 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> wrote:

> James A. Donald:
>>>> Cops just don't put that much work in.
>> 
>> On 2013-05-22 5:41 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>>> Yes, yes they do:
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.scmagazine.com/finfisher-command-and-control-hubs-turn-up-in-11-new-countries/article/291252/
>> 
>> 
>> That governments attempt to spy on people is not evidence that they any
>> good at it.
>> 
> 
> Of course. They are quite good at it. Their successes are well documented:
> 
> 
> https://citizenlab.org/2012/10/backdoors-are-forever-hacking-team-and-the-targeting-of-dissent/
> 
> https://citizenlab.org/2013/03/you-only-click-twice-finfishers-global-proliferation-2/
> 

also the very colorful

http://epic.org/crypto/scarfo.html

(this is all from memory, but…

a keylogger was installed in a black bag job with a magistrate warrant (on 
nicky scarfo jr, the son of an imprisoned mobster nicky scarfo sr) 
accused of loan sharking and racketeering (as i recall).  in a previous search 
they had found a pgp encrypted spreadsheet and wanted the passphrase.

the keylogger supposedly satisfied the minimization requirements (suppressing 
logging when he used aol on a dialup…)  (i really want to know
how that worked…)

they didn't get the passphrase during the first term of the first warrant 
(couple months, as i recall.)   not much of a loanshark, doesn't update
his books in a couple months, hm…     then they renewed the warrant…   and 
finally got him typing the passphrase….
which was  his father's federal prison number.   duh.


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