On 24 Dec 2013 at 21:43, Peter Todd wrote: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 09:39:22PM -0500, Bernie Cosell wrote: > > [but I would vote strongly for having the list archived online! That > > makes searches of old threads and most every other 'benefit' of a > forum > > available while not messing up the ongoing discussion mechanism at > all] > > There's multiple archives of this mailing list, and starting you own > is > trivial:
Starting your own isn't helpful for this situation: you can't search for threads and refereneces that appeared before you joined the list. If you're a newcomer and you see a 'reply', you can't go back to the head of the thread to see what they were talking about. And I know I can archive stuff myself [easily!] via the email list, but I'd rather not have to store thousands of email messages on the off chance that some time in the future I might want to dig for something -- I'd really prefer there be a public "master" archive. [of course within that, the very nice thing is that I can make a "little archive": just keeping the threads that I really am interested in, or marking them 'unread' as I archive them to remind me that i need to spend time looking more closely at them] > http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/ > https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@randombit.net > > IMO ease of archiving and ease of passing around archives is one of > the > biggest strengths of mailing lists. I agree! But I think there should be at least one "official" one -- that is, one that is actually tasked with archiving the list and not just a happenstance archive. For example, right now, I can't connect to www.mail-archive.com at all. Firefox complains: Unable to connect Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.mail-archive.com and I tried to lynx to it from a different server and got Looking up www.mail-archive.com first Looking up www.mail-archive.com Making HTTP connection to www.mail-archive.com Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. So that's not a handy archive. But the first archive you mention is great -- I didn't know it existed: it should be publicized or something. I don't know if the RFCs permit it, but could there be a list-archive: header? It'd be out of the way but easy to find [and only a click away in many eamil clients]. [but as a footnote, this one needs a search option -- how would you find the posts in which we had discussed TDES? /Bernie\ -- Bernie Cosell Fantasy Farm Fibers mailto:ber...@fantasyfarm.com Pearisburg, VA --> Too many people, too few sheep <-- _______________________________________________ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography
