Valve has lowered the tickrate in Counter Strike: Source, and the game has more
players than CS:GO, how exactly would doing the same kill the competitive
community?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Valtteri Kiviniemi
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] 128 tickrate server makes door at de_nukeor
de_nuke_se move slower than when it is @ 64 tick server
Hi,
Valve DO NOT lock the tickrate to a lower value. Let people choose if they
want to use 128tick. Lowering the tickrate will kill the competitive gaming. I
have more than 50 servers on my customers and all of them are 128tick and
people are really, really enjoying a lot of the higher high registration.
Of course it would be nice to have fix for the door but eitherway it does not
really matter, its just one map and people rather use buggy door with high
tickrate than a working door with crappier hit registration.
- Valtteri
2012/9/19 Marco Padovan <[email protected]>
The page you linked about lag compensation says:
Increasing the tickrate does improve the precision of hit detection, but
also requires more CPU, memory, and bandwidth capacity for server and clients.
Il 19/09/2012 14:12, Calvin Judy ha scritto:
Mike,
It may be important for something specific HPE's doing with CS:GO, but
CS:S was never run at 128 tickrate, it was run at 100 tickrate, the arguement
was that it's better for competitive play, and that's simply not true. It's
just like the fps_max myth, 1000 fps servers, 10000 fps servers, etc.
The higher the tickrate, the higher the physics calculations, which is
why the door is moving slower. As Ido stated, they will be investigating the
doors issue. But the arguement will continue to be "100 tickrate is better for
competitive gaming, because it does more calculation." (Like you said, anyone
with basic math skills can do the numbers) The problem is, it's physics
calucation, like entities (the doors), NOT hitboxes/hit registration.
If you guys want to tweak settings to improve hit registration, start
doing more research into the lag compensation part of the engine.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Lag_compensation
As stated before you can verify what I'm saying about hitboxes with
"sv_showimpacts" set to 1, which will show both client-side, and server-side
hitboxes. (Change the tickrate between 33, 66, 100, and 128, the hitboxes are
not dependant on the tickrate.)
What people percieve as tickrate causing hit registration issues is
actually interpolation.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Interpolation
To delve even further into the door issue, you may want to review entity
interpolation, which is a direct effect of tickrate.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Entity_interpolation
But entity interpolation and client interpolation are two very different
areas, and changing the tickrate to something higher will not produce better
"hit registration" results.
Also, the plugin which you speak of was released by a third party, and it
is mainly used on surf/bhop servers to produce the desired acceleration over
entities (The bhop blocks for example, which are also func_doors), not
competitive servers.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Didiano
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] 128 tickrate server makes door at de_nukeor
de_nuke_se move slower than when it is @ 64 tick server
Steve,
As soon as they locked FPS at 66 a plugin was released
to allow 100 tickrate. Anyone with basic math skills knows that 1/100 is a
smaller number than 1/66.
They wouldn’t have included this in CS:GO if it weren’t important.
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