Bob Cohen wrote: > On Nov 28, 2007, at 10:23 AM, David Laakso wrote: > >> The issue you have with ALA "Holy Grail" layout came up on the list a >> few days ago. I know nothing about Levine's fix for Levine's layout. >> Go to the CSS-D list archives-- search subject line: Holy Grail. >> You'll pull up 7 or 8 replies regarding your question. > > Thanks again. I've done as you suggested. The prevailing wisdom seems > to be abandon all hope and start from scratch using Ryan Brill's > negative margins as the basis for more workable templates. His > article in ALAP has nothing about padding, which I don't think I quite > understand yet. > > Here's the thing. I'm barely in control of what I'm doing since this > is my first hand coded/CSS site. I've got the ALAP Holy Grail working > FF and Safari, in IE 7, and almost working in IE6. The left column is > displaced until you resize the browser window at which point it goes > where it belongs. The template does not not work in 5.0 or 5.5. > (Seems like I ought to be backwardly compatible down to IE5.) Now my > client is asking when I'll get the project done.
Sounds to me as though you have already decided what you are going to do. Perhaps someone else on the list can help you do what a number of other people on the list suggest is tempting fate if not an exercise in futility. > > To quote the old 80s song, "Should I stay or should I go?" I've got a > tenuous grasp on how to manipulate the Holy Grail, except for the dang > IE6 issues but them tables and the WYSIWYG editor is calling. If only > there was a 12 Step Program for designers addicted to tables. Boy > could I use a cup of coffee and a sponsor. ;-) Promises, promises... use tables if you want. Makes no difference to me. But don't blame it on CSS when you've been given more than fair warning of what the issues are with the layout /you/ choose. > > Does anyone have a clue about how to make the Holy Grail layout > behave? In the alternative, is there another template available that > works in all the major browsers that I can use to study and to get > this project out? Both of these layouts [1] [2] work in IE/5.01 through IE7.0. And Mac IE/5.2. If either, or both, do not work for you, /it has to do with what you are putting in the layouts/-- not with either layout proper. [1]<http://www.alistapart.com/d/negativemargins/ex5.htm> [2]<http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala13.html> The same can not be said of the ALA "Holy Grail." It fails in IE/7 and down right from it's author's little pen. > The URL was in my previous post but here it is again: > http://www.mojotools.com/priv/tst/holyGrail-a.html. The CSS is in the > same directory and can be gotten by omitting the html file name from > the above url. Trust me. We know how to find your CSS file and how to open it providing we did not get a 404 on your uri as we do now. > > Thanks again. > > Bob Cohen Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/