The original poster asked for a way to make IE/win line up elements same as FF and Netscape9, so that's what Georg gave him a working solution for. That there are a number of other ways to achieve the requested line-up, leaves plenty of room for others to reveal their solutions.
That Georg also included a suitable way to make the relevant "collapsing margin" visible in all browsers, seems to have resulted in exactly what Georg wanted: that more people became aware of what's going on. That's nice ... keep it coming. Always a few more web designers that may learn something from such threads. Alan Gresley wrote: > I think Georg may have be baffled by the bug and suggested testing > with padding to debug. Georg may even been checking in Opera 2.24 or > earlier.... Zeroing out the margin on the heading also works around > the bug but this requires changing the CSS so the good browsers will > follow IE which I would say isn't Georg general approach when working > with IE. ;-). Georg isn't baffled at all, and knows perfectly well how both "collapsing margins" and "IE/win (hasLayout and other) bugs" behave. FWIW: He co-authored more than one article on these subjects. For the record: Georg doesn't follow a "general approach" when dealing with anything. He chooses a suitable approach for each case. As for testing in Opera: the mentioned v.2.24 was never launched AFAIK, but Georg did test in Opera 9.50beta (build 9694), and half a dozen older "9" and "8" versions for good measure - before replying to the original poster. If anything; testing, testing and more testing is Georg's approach, and it's a working one that I'll recommend. regards Molly 'the cat' - co-author and certified bug-killer -- http://www.gunlaug.no ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/