On 7/03/2008, at 8:29 AM, david wrote: Karl Hardisty wrote: > On 6/03/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower. > My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less > than IE6. > And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping > through > that many hoops to accommodate so few IE 5 users. > > And I make liberal use of conditional comments for IE. In the years > to come, > as standards and browser capabilities change, conditional stylesheets > are much > easier to change than hacks, which are no future-proof, either. > > Rick > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:css-d- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Mark Story >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:36 PM >> To: 'CSS' >> Subject: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for >> >> It seems that my perception of in the wild browsers was a bit off. >> As I >> consider IE 5 for mac to be deceased, however it seems to be alive >> and >> kicking for some. So I just wanted to get an idea of what the oldest >> browser you are currently testing for is? And how are you targetting >> them? Hacks, conditional comments, other techniques? >> >> -Mark > > I have recently updated our policies regarding this, after much > examining of logs of sites we've developed. For IE it is now 6 > upward as well, with a check to ensure it renders ok in 5.5, and that > it is readable, if not reference rendering. In fact, the only > mention of IE below 6 was in a discussion forum, for which the lone > user of Mac IE5.2 on OS 9 could change the theme to another which > rendered fine, so no issue there. Keep in mind this is more > representative of the type of sites we do, than the internet as a > whole, and the ultimate answer is for the developer to examine logs, > and their own ideas of what they're comfortable with.
And remember this about logs: If you design a site that doesn't work in browser X, after awhile, you won't have anyone using browser X visit your site *because your site doesn't work.* Then you'll pat yourselves on the back and say, "See - no one uses browser X." ;-) -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] authenticity, honesty, community ______________________________________________________________________ David - you raise a very good point. This is why it is so important to pay special attention to logs immediately after a site update. Usage patterns can highlight issues that cursory testing of browsers during development may have missed. A comparison of usage before and after is generally a good idea. If a site design changes, and suddenly a certain type of browser/platform combination drops off markedly, there's probably a good reason. Karl mothership - http://mothership.co.nz ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
