Alan K Baker wrote: > http://www.webbwize.co.uk/Test_Area/VTPO/
> [...] I can't see why this should be a placement problem and wonder > if it's to do with the way z-index is handled, or is it because I > have misunderstood the way that transparent images are supposed to be > rendered when displaced within a set size <div>? The addition of... .couplertab li a, .fluetab li a, .reedtab li a, .stringtab li a { background-repeat: no-repeat; } ...will fix the problem with the shorter background. > [...] The correct effect can be seen on the top text for each image, > which is working correctly as expected. Except that small font-sizes do not survive 'minimum font size' or 'ignore font size'. > Can anyone think of a way of achieving this with text, as I don't > want to have to resort to further graphical text manipulation? Address them as... #navbar li a:active span { /* and style to your liking */ } Delete the 'z-index: 200;' on '.abbreviate, .pitch' while you're at it, as it serves no purpose. Additional comments: The whole construction makes me wonder why there are so many DIVs and ULs in there, as one UL and a number of LIs with anchors would work just fine. All backgrounds with all states can be contained in one image, and horizontal background-offset be used to line them up as what you have now. Will make the whole thing less complicated I think, and one image loads faster. You can also tune the image a bit and make it 8bit png, which will make IE6 more cooperative. Remember that IE6 'auto-expands' empty elements, as IE/win sees imaginary spaces in empty elements. Declaring 'overflow: hidden' on them or simply placing an HTML comment as only content inside them, will make IE6 stop expanding them. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/