> I have tried almost everything, I just would like a space > between the border and the padding so they don't touch.
That won't happen with a simple padding and border construct. You would need to wrap your element in a DIV to achieve a nested double border, or border with gap between the background color. There may be other ways to achieve this, but IMO a nested element seems the easiest. ____________________________________ Rob Emenecker @ Hairy Dog Digital www.hairydogdigital.com Please note: Return e-mail messages are only accepted from discussion groups that this e-mail address subscribes to. All other messages are automatically deleted. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/