> > <b> is presentational. It says, "Make this bold." > > > > <em> and <strong> aren't presentational. They say > "emphasize"/"strongly > > emphasize" this. They don't say HOW to emphasize/strongly emphasize > it. > > They're just saying that this text is more important than surrounding > text, > > so emphasize it. > > > > --- > > > > And how is that text emphasized? In most cases by changing the way it > is > > presented to the reader. I know EM and STRONG don't require that it's > > presentation be changed which is probably where everyone thinks that > the > > tags are then rendered non-presentational. > > Yes, Michael, those are the browser designer decisions that I mentioned > in my original email. > > > I use use EM when I want italic and STRONG when I want bold, > sometimes I'll > > change the font color as well, therefore I consider them > presentational > > tags. > > You can use them that way, too.
fwiw, I don't agree. If an author wants "italics" or "bold" then he <em>should</em>, <strong>must</strong>, use <i> and <b>. To stay on-topic I won't mention semantics (should be a no brainer though), but CSS: a User Agent does *not* have to make <em> italics and <strong> bold, but it has to for <i> and <b>. -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | articles and tutorials www.ez-css.org | ultra light CSS framework ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/