Sorry, Ada, I am sure you are not interested in this digression : if you look at the Web-Consultants version, you will see that I have also made some improvements to the horizontal menu bar, but I am unclear what changes you would also like to make to the vertical one.
Come on Eric : rule the remainder of this message off-topic and declare the thread closed :-) "G.Sørtun" wrote:
Whose talking about /ignoring/ standards?
If you choose include CSS that is invalid, then you are ignoring the CSS standard, just as if you choose to drive at 100mph on a motorway, you are ignoring both the speed limit and the law.
There's a practical side of web design that neither I, nor W3C, ignore... "Follow standards as well as you can and as far as possible, but no need to follow them off the cliff". ...which is why you will find such non-standard, proprietary, CSS even on sites to those who are responsible for the standards we have, and those that will come in the future. The need for non-standard/proprietary code will disappear when all browsers in widespread use are up to standards, and not before.
There is no /need/ for non-standard/proprietary code : some authors elect to use such things, which is their privilege, but no-one is /forced/ to do such things. Back in the good old days of Netscape, I would use the topmargin/leftmargin/<whatever> hacks that were required in the body tag in order to get the page to render correctly in Netscape, but I also used a DOCTYPE that declared these attributes, and thus my pages were valid (albeit not valid HTML 4.01). However, as far as I am aware, there are no analogous facilities for declaring that the dialect of CSS that one is using is an extension (or derivative) of an existing W3C standard rather than a current standard per se. Philip Taylor ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
