I've been hoping for a return of the list.  I've tried sending a few posts, but 
thought I was locked out for some reason ... glad to know it was only a 
software issue.

Maybe keep it going for a while, and see if it picks up??


Greg 

-----Original Message-----
From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org 
[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:35 PM
To: CSS-D Discuss
Subject: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

Hi, everyone,

    So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us really 
noticed until this month.  Or, if people noticed, nobody mentioned it until 
this month.  It took a while to get in touch with someone who could get the 
software restarted, but I'm told it's back up. 
  If you're reading this, then yes, it's back up.
    This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the 
utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue.  There are a lot of 
other venues for discussing CSS these days, and most of the reason for this 
list existing-- to help people figure out how CSS worked, and fix problems-- is 
covered much more compellingly by sites like StackOverflow.  The resources that 
used to support css-d, like the public archive and the wiki, have fallen into 
disuse or disrepair over the years.  In general, there's a faded feeling here, 
at least for me.
    Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action:

    1. Shut down the list.  To all good things, etc.  This obviously abandons 
those who still prize having a mailing list, but that number seems very small.  
Almost all the discussion in the months leading up to the hiatus was conducted 
between a small number of subscribers.  Of course, a new list could be started 
by someone else.
    2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit.  
This involves the very difficult task of finding someone who's interested, and 
making a good choice.  This is the least appealing of the three, honestly, 
because of the possibility of getting things wrong.
    3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use" 
to more general discussion about anything CSS-related.  That would include 
theoretical musings, discussion of what CSS should or shouldn't be, where it 
should go in the future, the general theory of CSS, and so on.  I'm less 
inclined to go this route, as there are other places to grapple with the deeper 
issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention blogs and social media).

At this point, perhaps due to pride and ego but perhaps simply due to feeling 
that the time has come, I'm leaning toward option 1.  January 24, 2016, will be 
the 14th anniversary of the list.  That leaves a month to either settle on a 
different course of action, or else to plan a shutdown.
    If anyone has strong feelings that it should be one of the other two 
options, or a fourth option I didn't list, feel free to let me know off-list.  
I may not be able to respond to every message, but I will read them all.  I 
expect to make a final decision on or before January 10, 2016.  Whatever I 
decide, I'll announce it here.

--
Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/
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