Dear Eric, first of all, tank you so mutch for your css-d work all this years.
I've been using the list on and off over its existence (my web work is intermitent, so I need refreshes and upadates from time to time, but reading about doubts others find is a great way to get speed up updating curves). I do confess I've not been contributing anything in this last years, my time is getting shorter, and the idea of loosing one more excelent web resource simply makes me feel guilty. All I can say about that is that not participating in the discussions is not the same as unsubscribing. I still read the list, mostly in batches. Mailing lists are getting "out of fashion", all other web design lists I subscribed have already died out (I still miss the web standards list), and it makes me sad. I do like new things, but some of the older ones just do not have good enough substitutes. As for other platforms, they are requirering more and more data from subscribers and even passers by, and I do care a lot for my privacy. That is why, for instance, I do not have a StackOverflow login. Newer is not always better. Also, some of the many other css resources out there, speacilly some famous blogs, are really good looking, easy to find, and with a lot of functionality, but lack in content quality and accuracy. So if you are wondering about the utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue, at least for me it reatains its usefulness and makes all the sense to keep it. As for your pondering points, the first one sounds really frightening. For the second, one would require some luck; I do not see myself as constant or relliable enough to volunteer - all I could do woukd be to promisse to parcicipate more for a while, wich is certainly not what would be needed. By parts exclusion, it seams to me the third point deserves some consideration... (would it work something like a "please, please, I beg of you, do not let it die"?) :) All the best, Merry Christmas, isabel On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Angela French <afre...@sbctc.edu> wrote: > I missed it. I posted a few times over the last few months but didn't > know what the issue was. I have always appreciated the vast experience of > the people on this list. More than once someone helped me out of a > pickle. In addition, I would often read threads that didn't necessarily > have any connection to a current issue I was fretting over, but the subject > line caught my attention as something worth reading. This list has > definitely contributed to my cSS knowledge over the years. I hope it keeps > going. > > Angela French > WA State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > -----Original Message----- > From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto: > css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:35 PM > To: CSS-D Discuss > Subject: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello > > Hi, everyone, > > So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us > really noticed until this month. Or, if people noticed, nobody mentioned > it until this month. It took a while to get in touch with someone who > could get the software restarted, but I'm told it's back up. > If you're reading this, then yes, it's back up. > This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the > utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue. There are a lot > of other venues for discussing CSS these days, and most of the reason for > this list existing-- to help people figure out how CSS worked, and fix > problems-- is covered much more compellingly by sites like StackOverflow. > The resources that used to support css-d, like the public archive and the > wiki, have fallen into disuse or disrepair over the years. In general, > there's a faded feeling here, at least for me. > Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action: > > 1. Shut down the list. To all good things, etc. This obviously > abandons those who still prize having a mailing list, but that number seems > very small. Almost all the discussion in the months leading up to the > hiatus was conducted between a small number of subscribers. Of course, a > new list could be started by someone else. > 2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit. > This involves the very difficult task of finding someone who's interested, > and making a good choice. This is the least appealing of the three, > honestly, because of the possibility of getting things wrong. > 3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use" > to more general discussion about anything CSS-related. That would include > theoretical musings, discussion of what CSS should or shouldn't be, where > it should go in the future, the general theory of CSS, and so on. I'm less > inclined to go this route, as there are other places to grapple with the > deeper issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention blogs and social > media). > > At this point, perhaps due to pride and ego but perhaps simply due to > feeling that the time has come, I'm leaning toward option 1. January 24, > 2016, will be the 14th anniversary of the list. That leaves a month to > either settle on a different course of action, or else to plan a shutdown. > If anyone has strong feelings that it should be one of the other two > options, or a fourth option I didn't list, feel free to let me know > off-list. I may not be able to respond to every message, but I will read > them all. I expect to make a final decision on or before January 10, > 2016. Whatever I decide, I'll announce it here. > > -- > Eric A. 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