Clarifications  

There isn't a last Apache release. But there are last previous NIH, 
Sourceforge, and Apache releases? 
TODO: Project History Page (Simple, just the releases and times, ideally with 
JIRA generated release notes). 

Suggestion: Demonstration > explanation. Use Examples !! 

EXAMPLE 1 : Basic Pipeline (without UMLS) 

** SHOW Before and after clinical text, demonstrates purpose 
** LIST the 5 steps 
** Most impressive demo would be the smoking status pipeline 

EXAMPLE 2: Basic Pipeline (with UMLS) 

** SHOW Before and after (input text -> output annotations)
** LIST the steps 
** Most impressive demo would be a negation of a cancer diagnosis and NER of a 
medication (chemotherapuetic drug). 

Thoughts? 
--andy 


On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Andy McMurry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sure thing Pei. 
> 
> I dont think cTAKES is ready for attention grabbing release (humble opinion). 
> And when you release you want to grab attention! ! cTAKES is awesome!! 
> 
> Suggestions (release blockers) 
> 
> (1) Downloads
> http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/downloads.cgi
> ! Link to install instructions is not there but "Verifying signatures" takes 
> up 20% of the page. NEEDS OBVIOUS LINK TO  INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS.  
> ! Last official release is blank because there isn't one, remove it 
> ! First mirror I tried was a 404? (not sure which one). I changed the mirror 
> then OK. Test all mirrors (script) 
> ? Previous releases are VERY confusing. 
> ? The NIH and SourceForge pages  should redirect to cTAKES, google "cTAKES 
> download" and imagine how confused a beginner would be. 
> 
> (2) User Guide
> http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/3.0.0/user-guide-3.0 
> ? 3.0.0 : no list of new features from last stable release. Why would a user 
> bother to upgrade to a beta? 
> ! Would be better to have a bundled download with resources, if possible. 
> Otherwise, make it clear to a newcomer what the benefit of getting UMLS / LVG 
> is. (one sentence). 
> ! Needs a very high level overview of the components in the context of using 
> them to do a very basic task like. 
> ! This is likely the most frequently accessed document for cTAKES. It has 
> almost no pointers to where to find basic information. 
> 
> (3) OTHER 
> * The NCI and SourceForge links are now highly confusing. 
> * While I am downloading, I should be reading the recommended "Get Started" 
> guide
> 
> I'm still downloading the 2GB resources file. 
> I'll try and get back to you about the install when that is done too. 
> 
> This constructive criticism is because I believe cTAKES is AWESOME. 
> Hard to see how awesome it is given the current instructions. 
> 
> --Andy 
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:02 PM, "Chen, Pei" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andy,
>> So much has changed in cTAKES since last year, if you have a chance- do you 
>> also want to try downloading the -bin and ensure at least the steps in the 
>> README are able to get you started?
>> 
>> --Pei
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Andy McMurry [[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:04 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator
>> 
>> Suggestion: can we get a good programmer with no cTAKES experience to kick 
>> the tires and tell us how long it took to get started?
>> 
>> John Resig (jQuery founder) once told me "if it takes more than 15 minutes 
>> to get started, then that is way too long".
>> 
>> "What is necessary is that enough investment be put into presentation that 
>> newcomers can get past the obstacle of unfamiliarity. …
>> Hactivation energy: the amount of energy a newcomer must put in before she 
>> starts getting something back"
>> -- From "Producing Open Source Software"
>> 
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=0vbr7xvvzjgC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=hacktivation+energy&source=bl&ots=D0hP85ndwz&sig=G5HO-7GbLqQPwLaI6210D9WGk2E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=N6EeUZXVHMHhiALq3YG4BQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=hacktivation%20energy&f=false
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:55 PM, "Chen, Pei" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is to open a discussion to graduate Apache cTAKES podling from the 
>>> Apache Incubator.
>>> 
>>> Apache cTAKES entered the Incubator in June of 2012. We have made 
>>> significant progress with the project since moving over to Apache. We 
>>> currently have 18 committers listed on our status page at [1] including 
>>> over 10 which accepted after the podling was formed.
>>> 
>>> During incubation, cTAKES has :
>>> * Produced 1 Release
>>> * Added 10 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community 
>>> activities
>>> * Cleared IP on code
>>> * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases in a community 
>>> process and started working on that [2]
>>> * The community of Apache cTAKES is active, healthy, and growing and has 
>>> demonstrated the ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices.
>>> 
>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ctakes
>>> [2] 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aroadmap-panel
>>> 
>> 
> 

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