[CTJUG Forum] Re: Estimates

Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:10:00 -0800

>And if your project manager says that you need to finish everything by a certain date, ask what you can leave >out.  It's called triage.

Hmmm...never looked at it that way :)

On 2/17/06, Dr Heinz M. Kabutz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The best is to break up the quote into lots of little tasks.  Each task can then be quoted on directly.
 
If your colleague suggests that you don't need so much time, ask him if he has included in his quote unit testing, documentation, etc.
 
And if your project manager says that you need to finish everything by a certain date, ask what you can leave out.  It's called triage.

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Heinz
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jeff Mutonho
Sent: 17 February 2006 13:12
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Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Estimates

But then there could be a situation where a PM "feels" that one is asking for too much time..or perhaps another developer in the team could claim that another developer is asking for too much time for what they "perceive" to be an easy job.
I think the question is , how do we , as developers come up with reasonable estimates , without ending up getting burnt out due to working till the early hours of the morning so that one can still finish within the "qouted" estimate?

On 2/17/06, Carl Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Heh.
 
The cry of coders down the ages.
 
Estimate to yourself (say 16 hours) - then double it (thus 32 hours) then double it again (64 hours) and quote that.  Haha - seems ott I know - but with scope changes, bad specs, etc - you will find it usually goes there anyways...
 
And if not - you look good!  Although if you always come in at half the estimate time this will also suck. :)
 
Don't use that all the time - but have in teh past -specifically for difficult clients ;)

Rgds,
 
Carl

From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Mutonho
Sent: 17 February 2006 10:35
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Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Estimates

Project managers will always ask for estimates on the time a developer thinks he/she is gonna spend coding something.I know experience plays a major role in this , but generally speaking ,what techniques do you guys use?Any rules of thumb?Lies ,etc :) ?

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