Not that it's going to help you much, but our standard approach at the
previous company I worked at was to tell people to read the Java
Tutorial and then start fixing bugs.....

We'd typically send them off for occasional week-long courses over a
period of a year to improve their skills, but it's really the immediate
immersion thing that gets you up to speed.

Fixing a bug is rewarding and lets you focus on getting up to speed on a
small part of the system without having to know the whole thing.

General advice - trying to teach people the entire J2EE stack is
waaaaaay too much.

I would suggest getting them up to speed on Java and JSP and leaving the
rest till later. That what we'd do with new guys - get them making small
changes to the front-end, and let them learn the stack from the
presentation layer downwards.

Regards, Noel.

Soren Aalto wrote:
> I'm trying to come up with a training plan to reskill developers
> who were Adabas/Natural programs into Java developers.
>
> I've talked to VZAP, who have an extensive 19-week long
> offering, but will compress this into a 6 week full time course
> as a "corporate offering."  Don't think I can send people away
> for 6 weeks and am looking for a combination of week-long
> classroom instruction courses that could be taken over a
> longer period.
>
> Looking a Sun courses -- the goal I have in mind is to learn:
> Java, JDBC, Servlet/JSP environment, so basically to get
> through Sun's
>
> https://www.suntrainingcatalogue.com/eduserv/client/loadCourse.do?coId=en_ZA_SL-314-EE5&coCourseCode=SL-314-EE5&l=en_ZA
> <https://www.suntrainingcatalogue.com/eduserv/client/loadCourse.do?coId=en_ZA_SL-314-EE5&coCourseCode=SL-314-EE5&l=en_ZA>
>
> Web Component Development with Servlet and JSP Technologies (SL-314-EE5).
>
> The only official prerequisite for this is Java Programming Language
> (SL-275-SE6),
> which covers a bunch of GUI/Swing stuff I don't really care about but
> does not touch JDBC...and JDBC is sort of briefly covered in the
> web development course.
>
> I'm a bit sceptical about two weeks of training...even with time
> served at work in between...getting us from *here* to *there*.
>
> But time-away-from work and costwise, I could afford to send
> people on this.
>
> What recommendations do people have? I don't even see much else
> in the Sun curriculum I could pad this out with.
>
> -- 
> Soren Aalto
> Director: ICT
> University of Zululand
>
>
>
> -- 
> Soren Aalto
> Director: ICT
> University of Zululand
> >


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