Hi Soren, What could also be valuable in your case is to employ a mentor that has made the transition already. That way if you follow Noel's approach you have someone that guide, monitor and assist them in their progress. Someone who has made the same transition is better than just an experienced java programmer as I assume that your current developers don't have formal programming training from a university and as such will need someone that can relate whats new to something that they have an existing understanding of.
OT. I think we need to find a way to limit access to this forum. As mostly a developer community forum, outsourcing spam is not in the best interest of the members. On Dec 4, 2007 4:29 PM, Noel Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not that it's going to help you much, but our standard approach at the > previous company I worked at was to tell people to read the Java Tutorial > and then start fixing bugs..... > > We'd typically send them off for occasional week-long courses over a > period of a year to improve their skills, but it's really the immediate > immersion thing that gets you up to speed. > > Fixing a bug is rewarding and lets you focus on getting up to speed on a > small part of the system without having to know the whole thing. > > General advice - trying to teach people the entire J2EE stack is waaaaaay > too much. > > I would suggest getting them up to speed on Java and JSP and leaving the > rest till later. That what we'd do with new guys - get them making small > changes to the front-end, and let them learn the stack from the presentation > layer downwards. > > Regards, Noel. > > > Soren Aalto wrote: > > I'm trying to come up with a training plan to reskill developers > who were Adabas/Natural programs into Java developers. > > I've talked to VZAP, who have an extensive 19-week long > offering, but will compress this into a 6 week full time course > as a "corporate offering." Don't think I can send people away > for 6 weeks and am looking for a combination of week-long > classroom instruction courses that could be taken over a > longer period. > > Looking a Sun courses -- the goal I have in mind is to learn: > Java, JDBC, Servlet/JSP environment, so basically to get > through Sun's > > > https://www.suntrainingcatalogue.com/eduserv/client/loadCourse.do?coId=en_ZA_SL-314-EE5&coCourseCode=SL-314-EE5&l=en_ZA > > Web Component Development with Servlet and JSP Technologies (SL-314-EE5). > > The only official prerequisite for this is Java Programming Language > (SL-275-SE6), > which covers a bunch of GUI/Swing stuff I don't really care about but > does not touch JDBC...and JDBC is sort of briefly covered in the > web development course. > > I'm a bit sceptical about two weeks of training...even with time > served at work in between...getting us from *here* to *there*. > > But time-away-from work and costwise, I could afford to send > people on this. > > What recommendations do people have? I don't even see much else > in the Sun curriculum I could pad this out with. > > -- > Soren Aalto > Director: ICT > University of Zululand > > > > -- > Soren Aalto > Director: ICT > University of Zululand > > > > > > -- Alwyn Schoeman --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CTJUG Forum" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/CTJUG-Forum For the ctjug home page see http://www.ctjug.org.za -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
