You know what bro? You have lots of valueable skills, why not let those skills work for otherthan work for others. Yes the usual and relatively understandable way is to work for others; but you need to seriously consider master-minding your own project. Think about it!
Aselmo. Mathebula ----- Original Message ---- From: Noel Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:50:50 PM Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Value of SCDJWS Hi To be blunt, not that much. When we hire people, we tend to want a 3-year degree (university or tech) of some kind. If the person is smart, we don't even care if they've never seen Java. The thing is, if the person understands the core concepts of programming and computers, teaching them Java is reasonably easy. But to teach a person those core concepts is hard. Obviously there are exceptions - but as a generalisation, that's how it works. And also, we don't generally rate the BCom.Informatics courses (university & tech) very highly when it comes to pure programming. We prefer BSc of some kind. Regards, Noel. William Reid wrote: Hi I would like to know what's the value of Sun Certifications period. I am certified as a Java Programmer, Web Component Developer and Business Component Developer. I scored above 80% on all the exams. I got certified in 2004 and 2005. However, it's very difficult for me find a Java position. I'm currently working as a Systems-\Business Analyst\Programmer\Network Admin, but I want to focus purely on Java Development. It's seems companies refuse to offer you a position unless you have a degree. I have just registered for a BCom (Informatics) course at Unisa, hope it will help.... My question ultimately is, how worthy is a Sun Java Certification? On Dec 6, 2007 1:49 PM, Carl Woermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would rather spend money on the web component developer cert if any - I stand to be corrected, but there have been huge improvements to the way web services are deployed and developed - I suspect that the exam concentrates on rather low level implementation issues that were useful if you had to "roll your own" (esp 3 years ago) or were forced to use the standard J2ee toolkit implementations - for an example look at the way EJB3 web services are implemented -simple annotation does 80% of the trick - muuuuch easier than using JAXP JAXB etc - since all that plumbing is now hidden from us mere mortals.. On Dec 6, 2007 1:26 PM, Fritz Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone here know anything about the Sun Certified Developer for > Java Web Services? Specifically its value compared to the other Sun > certs, and whether it is worth spending the money. > > Regards, > Fritz > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CTJUG Forum" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/CTJUG-Forum For the ctjug home page see http://www.ctjug.org.za -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
