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MJ wrote:
.50 Payments to Individuals
.15 National Defense
.15 Grants to States & Localities
.14 Net Interest
.05 Other Federal Operations
.01 Reserve Pending Social Security Reform
____
1.00 Total
Hmmm ... 14% is bigger than 50%? New Math?
Linda Minor wrote:
"Individuals"? Does this mean government employees or what
exactly?
MJ:
ALL individuals to who the government redistributes tax-payer's
earnings ...
Black Lung Disability and Survivor's Benefits, Black Lung Survivor's
Benefits, Disability Insurance, Federal Employee's Compensation,
Federal-State Unemployment Insurance, Railroad Unemployment Insurance,
Trade Readjustment Allowances, Basic Educational Opportunity Grants,
College Work-Study, Follow Through, Head Start, Interest-Free
Guaranteed Loans, Medical Education Loans and Grants, National
Direct Student Loans, Nursing Education Loans, Special Services for
Low-Income Physically Handicapped Students in post Secondary Schools,
Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grants, Talent Search, Upward
Bound, Vocation Educational Work Study, Food Commodities, Food Stamps
School Lunches, School Milk, Special Supplemental Feeding (for pregnant
and lactating mothers), Special Supplemental Feeding (for Women,
Infants and Children), Comprehensive Health Services, Crippled
Children's Services, Dental Health of Children, Health Care of
Children and Youth, Intensive Infant Care Project, Maternity and
Infant Care Projects, Medicaid, Medicare, Appalachian Housing Program,
Farm Labor Housing, Home-Ownership for Tenants of Public Housing,
Home-Ownership Loans, Indian Housing Improvement Program, Interest
Subsidies for Rental Housing, Low-Income Housing Repair Loans,
Low-Rent Public Housing, Mortgage Insurance for Families Who Are
Special Credit Risks, Mortgage Insurance for Low-Income and
Moderate-Income Families, Mortgage Insurance for Low-Income and
Moderate-Income Families (Condominiums), Rent Supplements, Rural
Housing Loans, Rural Housing Site Loans, Rural Rental Housing Insured
Loans, Rural Self-Help Housing Technical Assistance, Career
Opportunities Program, Concentrated Employment Programs, Economic
Opportunity Loans, Foster Grandparents, Job Corporations, Job
Opportunities in the Business Sector, Manpower Development and
Training, Neighborhood Youth Corporations, Operation Mainstream
Public Service Careers, Senior Community Service Employment, Senior
Companions, Vocational Rehabilitation Services, Work Incentive
Projects, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), Assistance
to Cuban Refugees, Emergency Assistance, General Assistance to Indians,
Legal Services for the Poor, Meals for the Elderly, Services to Needy
Aged, Blind or disabled, Services to Needy families on Welfare,
Supplement Security Income.
To name a few.
Linda Minor wrote:
And you're saying there's only .01 difference between national
defense and net interest. Sounds like the financiers are
getting a big cut there, and since they own most of the military
industrial complex as well, that's a big chunk of the government.
MJ:
The numbers I posited were Mr. Clinton's.
Linda Minor wrote:
I keep wondering why they want to do away with the government.
It must have something to do with wanting the other 70% of the
pie.
MJ:
'They' who?
*I* want to remove ALL of this plunder and restore liberty by
restricting Government ONLY to its legitimate function of protecting
ALL individuals from FORCE and FRAUD ... rather than providing
legislated advantage.
MJ:
The 'source' would then be the taxpayer -- so this mantra is
a bit silly.
Linda Minor wrote:
It's only silly to you because you distorted what I said. The
source of the money is the people who actually buy the bonds
that are actually sold. The ideal situation would be if the
taxpayer bought the bonds, and then we'd collectively own the
infrastructure. The actual situation is that, although
the money of small investors is used to pay for bonds, because
the savings are filtered into mutual funds, the investment
management company--not the investor--controls the fund. In
the case of default, the small investor is wiped out, but the
larger bondholder (with maybe 5% of the total fund) gets
control of the asset. Then it can be sold to another corporation
sponsored by the financiers and friends. You don't have to
believe me; do some corporate research.
MJ:
The Government --Federal -- has
MJ wrote:
Why the need to invoke emotive language rather than responding
specifically to the material?
Linda Minor wrote:
I put the same question to you.
MJ:
My posits address the specific material -- and I seldom if ever
invoke Nazism or other such merely pointing at reality.
Linda Minor wrote:
And I don't have to insert flowery quotes from long dead
apologists for an empire called a "republic"--that existed
by virtue of looting and slavery.
MJ:
What exactly are we currently saddled? The SLAVERY of oppressive
50% taxation (PLUNDER) ... which is redistributed to those who
seek favor from their masters.
Education beyond the indoctrination of mythology spoon-fed
by the Government ... never mind.
Linda Minor wrote:
What did Cato know about the 20th century or the United States?
What did he have to say about the corruption all around him
during his own lifetime?
MJ:
Cato was ONE of those who were read and quoted by the Founders
of this nation (those persons you identify above who had to deal
with that Law in which the British Government saddled them while
seeking to unite -- in freedom -- 13 fledgling nations).
... where corruption and public crimes are not carefully
opposed, and severely punished, neither liberty nor
security can possibly subsist. -- Cato's Letters (1721)
Linda Minor wrote:
BTW, I've forgotten what kind of work you do, MJ, that's so
valuable to society. Aren't you the Ayn Rand follower?
No creativity, only quotes.
MJ:
I am not a 'follower' of anyone and my occupation is of no relevance
as I have stated prior. As to your additional fallacy of logical
argument, I will refrain from defining.
Regard$,
--MJ
No man ought to be exempt from the ties of law; and the higher
any man is, the more ties he ought to be under. All power ought
to be balanced with equal restraints, else it will certainly
grow mischievous. He who knows no law but his own lust, seldom
observes any other. -- Cato's Letters
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