-Caveat Lector-

""It's clear the founding fathers created the law to save
: religion from the control of the Government.. Simply because of where and
: why they came here.  ""

I believe the problem arose when the civil rights of some were being
violated by those felt to be the majority.  Separating the two allowed for
free exercise thereof without infringement on others / others' rights.
Suffice to say, the Judeo-Christian perspective was pervasive in them olden
days, before the quilt of religions / faiths that exist currently.  As the
Pilgrims fled Jolly Ol' England for some tolerance, so the Founding Fathers
incorporated this into the new nation's rules to reflect one of the
original purposes of the colonisation of the the East Coast.  I'm not
really sure WHEN the concept of Comparative Religions became an actual
discipline within any school of thought.  Also, should each of the
splinters of the now known Christian faith be addressed in school, I would
suppose they'd stop it anyway because someone might not like their son or
daughter being dissuaded from the family faith by some glib talker or some
concept of a majority (bullying or peer pressure)(I know, I know: rare in
any school of any generation but possible nonetheless).

Which brings to mind:  When is a citizen actually a citizen?  At birth or
at eighteen?  When?  Why I ask is:  Aren't a child's civil rights being
denied when a parent (or two or more) force-feeds some creed into her or
his offspring's willing mind; in effect, imposing concepts on a child when
(as a citizen) the child has the guaranteed right to choose for him or her
self?

I noticed a lot of "Founding Fathers (FFs)" talk during the impeachment
circus.  Although they had made great strides in *founding* a system of
government, one cannot assume they had the final say ... or the final word.
 I believe Darwin came along some years after the founding of the U.S., so,
his perspective (evolution as a defined concept) was not yet a factor.
Unfortunate as this time delay was, it can still be concluded evolution has
been proven even within the confines of the U.S. system of governing --
from its inception.  The "FFs", again, put their best foot forward yet I
doubt it was their intention to avoid the probability of change --
especially with the times and the people thereof.  There was some comment
during the circus about the "FFs" that emphasised the notion that
principles endure, if nothing else.  Principles can be likened to be
nothing more than the seed from which the organism grows, lives through its
cycle, generates new seed, and so forth.  There will be some future
generations that retain all the original genetic characteristics and others
that change with cross-pollination.  Nevertheless, one cannot expect
exactly the same notion of anything from one generation to the next.  In
fact, introduction of new genetic material was proven to improve matters.

So, exactly when did the American Revolution end?  (My response:  It never
did end, allowing continuing evolvement.)

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The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes
but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust

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: From: Stopforth, Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religious Right,Religious Rights: an interview with A
mericans United
: Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 7:49 AM
:
:  -Caveat Lector-
:
:           "Separation of church and state" doesn't appear anywhere in the
: constitution...  It's clear the founding fathers created the law to save
: religion from the control of the Government.. Simply because of where and
: why they came here.  As a matter of fact, it was unconstitutional to take
: prayer out of schools.  If you look at the founding fathers true history
you
: will find they had faith in God and read the bible almost daily... "We
hold
: these truths to be self-evident that all men are *created* equal."
Notice
: it doesn't say "that all men evolve equal..."   It's clear what the
intent
: of the law was.
:
:         Jamie

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