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William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Davis and the other southern commanders had taken oaths as soldiers and as
> politicians to serve and uphold the Constitution of the United States.
> They were bound by that oath not to work against the best interests of the
> nation. By taking up arms against their country, they were committing an
> act of treason..
Mr. Tunstall, Sir,
The Confederates did NOT take up arms against THEIR country, rather took up arms to
fight against an enemy who invaded their COUNTRY. They did not view the *collective
Union of States* as their COUNTRY, rather the State in which they lived was what they
considered their COUNTRY, Sir.
For example....When General Lee tendered his resignation as an officer in the Union
military in April of '61, he did so because he said he could not draw his sword against
his COUNTRY, meaning Virginia, and had he remained in the Union military, knowing that
serving in the Union military would be considered TREASONOUS since his COUNTRY of
Virginia was no longer a part of the Union for his COUNTRY, Virginia had divorced
herself from the Union, formed her own government, joined a partnership of other
COUNTRIES who had formed a Confederacy.
The Confederates no more committed the act of treason by divorcing the Union, than
would
a woman commit the act of treason should she divorce her husband who had usurped her
God
given rights, or visa versa. The Southron COUNTRIES that divorced themselves from the
despot did so peacefully. But then, the Union invaded, fought them, tried to destroy
their people, conquered them, and ever since then the Union of States has illegally
occupied these COUNTRIES, denying them sovereignty for all these years.
> Sorry if that offends some of you but that is a fact.
No Sir....respectfully I must disagree with you....it is NOT a FACT.
> Remember, General Grant, who probably more than anyone, knew and respected
> his southern counterparts (hell...he had served with almost all of them
> during the Mexican-American war), was not sentimental about it.
> If you take up arms against your government, you are guilty of treason.
TRUE, Sir....and why the Confederates took up arms to defend THEIR country against an
invading enemy, and why I hail them as heroes, and pay homage to the dear souls for
their noble deeds....many of whom were my own people....my family of yesteryear whose
blood courses through my veins.
> If my son or daughter is wearing a uniform of the United States
> government, and he encounters some treasonous, murderous son of a bitch
> who believes that he is serving God or Dixie or the Devil-himself by
> pointing a gun at him or her....I would advise my son or daughter to blow
> that son of a bitch away without a moment's hesitation.
That is your right, Sir to advice your children in such a way if you so choose.
> Now, personally, I'm not against the idea of a state removing itself from
> the Union (if it could be done peacefully and without
> bloodshed...property rights and civil liberties respected, etc. Go for
> it).
> But the last time I checked, more people are trying to get into the
> country than are trying to get out.
>
> I love America--New England, the Midwest,the West--hell yes, Dixie, too.
> Personally, I don't give a damn whether you are white, black,brown,
> southern, northern, Christian, Jew or atheist...whether you are male or
> female..rich or poor...if you live in a trailer or a million dollar
> house.. if you've only lived in this country for a year...or if you can
> boast of Revolutionary War ancestors...you are an American; and you are my
> brother or sister. We are a people, a nation, a society, a country.
First I am a child of God....secondly I am a South Carolinian....thirdly I am an
American.
May God's blessings be upon you, Sir..........
Linda of the Palmetto State
U.S. Occupied
> And if you get into trouble in some damned forsaken corner of the globe,
> you can count on me or someone like me ( Americans come in a variety of
> different colors, sizes and shapes) to help you out. And I don't care
> about the size of your bank account, whether you are right or not right
> with the Creator, your political party, your ethnicity, your color or
> however you want to define yourself. When you are overseas and you are in
> a tight spot..these differences aren't so important.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> William
>
> On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, MY HEART'S IN DIXIE! wrote:
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Howard R. Davis III wrote:
> >
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > When the southern military commanders took up arms against their
> > > > government...that was a TREASONOUS act in my book.
> > > ***
> > > Jefferson Davis spent several years in prison after the war begging
> > > to be released or put on trial for treason. I think it was seven years
> > > before he was released without a trial. Why was he never tried? It is
> > > believed that it was well known that the Supreme Court would have thrown
> > > out a conviction. This would have been untenable in the North since then
> > > there would have had to be an acknowledgemnt that the southern states
> > > had had the right to end their ties to the union.
> >
> > You are absolutely correct, Mr. Davis. God bless you, Sir! President Jeff Davis,
> > nor any of our Confederates committed the act of treason by forming the
> > Confederate States of America, and even U.S. of A. Chief Justice Chase had this to
> > say about it:
> >
> > "If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the
> > Constitution secession is not rebellion..."
> >
> > Linda
> >
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