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Another great zine getting back in the stands after the 'fun and games'
provided to these gutsy entrepeneurs by Fine Print, the distributor.
An issue chock-ful of interest, exposes, with a focus on Mind Control. X-rays
of an implant and more. 56 pages. Bug your bookstore or send 'em some money,
tis well worth it. With permission, here is a taste.
Om
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Uri Dowbenko Interviews Mind Control Survivor Cathy O'Brien, and Her Therapist
Mark Phillips.
Cathy O'Brien has faced Evil, and survived. Sexually abused by her father, she
was then "sold" to a government agency doing mind control experiments with
multi-generational incest survivors.
Later she was subjected to ongoing sexual abuse and torture under the
influence of drugs. This so-called trauma-based programming continued until
she approached the age of 30 � and a date with death. She didn't know it, but
she was scheduled to be murdered in a "snuff" film, a filmed recording of an
actual murder.
Rescued just in time and deprogrammed, she has written a book called
TranceFormation of America: The True Life Story of a CIA Mind Control Slave
with her rescuer and therapist Mark Phillips. "Recovery is the best revenge,"
she says.
Amid the never-ending allegations of CIA crimes and cover-ups, TranceFormation
of America is one of the most sordid books in print. It alleges unspeakable
acts of cruelty and depravity. It describes the vilest exploitation of people
� the creation of slaves forced against their will to do the dirty work of a
cabal of depraved government officials. Like the fallen angels of Dante's
Inferno, these government officials are marked by an incredible arrogance and
lust for power that belie their public persona of virtue.
Quite frankly, TranceFormation of America reads like sci-fi porno. It's
triple-X rated material that's raw, raunchy and disgusting. Most shocking of
all, though, it fearlessly names the alleged perpetrators of these crimes: top
government officials and celebrities.
Cathy O'Brien states in her book that a former Defense Secretary abused her in
a sub-basement of the Pentagon which he called "The Bunkhouse," and in other
locations where he hunted Cathy and her daughter Kelly in what he called "The
Most Dangerous Game" (hunting naked humans with dogs and raping them as a
finale). O'Brien also describes the country music scene in Nashville,
Tennessee and Branson, Missouri, where she was used as a drug courier and sex
slave.
Is Cathy O'Brien's case an exception? Mark Phillips emphatically states that
"there's a tremendous amount of mind control that's being done in sports,
entertainment and pornography � all for the sake of money. Cathy's case is
absolutely not isolated."
So why haven't you heard about this story? Very simply, the unindicted
criminals hide behind the shield of the National Security Act of 1947. Oddly
enough, however, no charges of libel or defamation have been raised against
Cathy O'Brien or Mark Phillips. The charges in the book, some of which are
repeated in this interview, are truly sensationalistic. But are they reality
or fantasy? We leave it to the reader to decide. -Uri Dowbenko
According to your book, TranceFormation of America, you were programmed
through brutal torture, sexual abuse and highly advanced mind control
technology to be a sex slave for the upper echelons of the U.S. government. In
other words, those men who knew the code words or triggers could activate this
sexual programming and make you do whatever they wanted. Cathy, how did you
meet your alleged owner, [names a U.S. Senator]?
CO (Cathy O'Brien): I met him in Mackinaw Island, Michigan, when I was about
thirteen years old. Mackinaw Island is a political retreat where the Michigan
governor's mansion is located. Many of my abusers were present at Mackinaw
Island. But I met [names a U.S. Senator] when I was about thirteen years old
and it was decided then that he would become my owner in this MK-Ultra Mind
Control project. And as my owner he would decide where I would be taken and
what specific operations I would be forced to carry out.
And [names a former U.S. President] at the time was, according to your book, a
Mafia gofer, or something?
CO: Well, at that time, the criminal faction in control of our government was
targeting dissociative identity disordered children. This used to be called
multiple personality disorder, but it has now been renamed more appropriately
dissociative identity disorder (DID). Dissociative identity disorder is highly
conducive to mind control, so this faction of the government was targeting
children like myself, chosen ones, prime candidates, that had been so horribly
abused that they suffered from this disorder. They were actually sanctioning
the local Michigan Mafia child pornography ring. Because they knew that the
children that bad been used in this pornography had been abused to the point
that they would suffer from this particular disorder, which they were so
interested in for mind control purposes.
You were programmed to have sex with these men and then you were shot with a
stun gun to repress or compartmentalize the memories, is that correct?
CO: Yes.
What was your experience with, for instance, [names an ex-President]?
CO: My experience with [ex-President] was [that I was used] for specific
criminal covert operations to usher in what both he and Adolf Hitler have
separately termed the New World Order. This included especially a lot of drug
running out of the Caribbean and Mexico. And also under his direction I was
used to lay the groundwork for NAFTA. Additionally, he was an abuser of my
daughter, Kelly. He sexually abused her on numerous occasions. It is my
experience that [exPresident] is in control of influencing many world leaders
and criminal politicians in this country for New World Order purposes.
And Bill Casey, then the CIA director... I understand that you were able to
actually draw a floor plan of his home on Long Island.
CO: Yes. There are a lot of details that are provided in TranceFormation of
America that could only have come through eye witness recall, and I did have a
photographic memory, which is consistent with dissociative identity disorder,
and had photographically recorded the layout of his house and, not only that,
but such things as Dick Cheney's office in the Pentagon.
There is growing evidence that UFO abduction stories are a CIA cover story for
mind control experiments. What has been your experience?
CO: That has been my experience, that it is a mind control theme that is being
used to make people feel totally helpless, whereby they are more receptive to
being controlled by others. The technological advancements of those criminals
in control of our government are at least 25 years ahead, and it is my
experience that when people see top secret [technology], it does seem alien to
diem, so to speak, because it is so totally advanced. Our government has had
this technology and this information for quite a long time and people need to
be aware that this programming theme is conditioning the minds of the masses
to feel like there has been some kind of an alien invasion, when the
technological advancements are finally revealed.
And Senator J. Bennett Johnston of Louisiana, he in particular had tried to
use this UFO story?
CO: J. Bennett Johnston claimed to be an alien, which was an effort to make me
feel totally helpless for mind control purposes, and when he showed me the
then top secret Stealth fighter in 1978, it looked like a space ship to me. It
was triangular ... and people are still reporting triangular-shaped UFOs and
all. This certainly was a technological advancement in 1978 and his high
intelligence combined with this technology certainly convinced my highly
suggestible mind at that time that he was an alien. But, of course, he is
nothing more than a man.
Through the deprogramming process and my photographic recall, I found that
every instance of a so-called alien had a very logical explanation behind it.
I could see the set-up to the program, and every bit of it certainly is
earthly.
Mark, could you describe the origin of the mind control operation MR Ultra /
Project Monarch, and its connection with Nazi scientists who were brought over
covertly into this country through Project Paperclip?
MP (Mark Phillips): Yes, I would be happy to. Adolf Hitler assigned his right-
hand man, Heinrich Himmler, the task of researching multi-generationally
sexually, psychologically, and physically abused northern European families
for the simple reason that he wanted to build a network of what he called
political puppets. He knew the effects � he didn't care about the cause, but
he knew the effects on the mind of this horrific type of abuse, particularly
the sexual abuse of children by their own caregivers, their fathers and their
mothers. These children were to be groomed by the SS, to be placed in
positions of political influence and control throughout governments all over
the world. As I'm sure that you've heard, there are a number of persons with
questionable pasts in our own government holding various cabinet jobs and
Pentagon positions.
Project Paperclip was a project involving the importation of Nazi and fascist
scientists from all over the world. They were brought in and placed not only
in rocket propulsion laboratories, NASA, but our universities and Fortune 500
companies as well. Many, in fact a disproportionate number of them, were not
rocket scientists, but psychiatrists. The project was implemented by the CIA
and controlled by the Pentagon.
Aside from Project Paperclip, there were other sub-projects that were also
responsible for changing the identities, and this sort of thing, for some of
these characters that were brought in. Their expertise emerged in the early
70s, when the CIA became extremely interested in infiltrating satanic as well
as other types of witchcraft cults in this country.
This is called what?
MP: The project name is unknown to me, but it was all under the umbrella of
MK-Ultra, which was the multigenerational mind control research project that
was initiated in the early 1950s. By 1957, Project Monarch was one of some 100
sub-projects of this MK-Ultra mind control research. Project Monarch was the
code name of the study, in this country, of these multigenerational children.
[As adults,] they have been placed in institutions of higher learning. They
have been in military operations. Special Forces operations particularly have
an interest in these folks, because they have these incredible skills such as
photographic memory, and 44x visual acuity abilities. It's like having eyes in
the back of your head.
Was this Project Monarch a CIA operation?
MP: Yes. Actually, the CIA was in control of the project. Also NASA and ARPA,
formerly DARPA, a special development group out of Blacksburg, Virginia � I
believe DARPA, NASA, and the CIA were ultimately responsible for controlling
the projects. But the Defense Intelligence Agency is acutely aware of it and
has implemented much of what has gone on. We have very little information in
that regard. However, there have been a number of scientists and a number of
persons involved in various levels of various projects, all associated with MK
Ultra, who have stepped forward.
Mark, in what could be called a miracle of recovery in therapy, you were able
to decondition Cathy from this mind control. How did you do it?
MP: Well, actually it's not so much of a miracle. There are a number of
therapists around the world who are building various models for treating
dissociative identity disorder, what was formerly known as multiple
personality disorder, which is the psychiatric result of being programmed
through horrific structured tortures, particularly if it is begun before age
five, before the person's brain is fully formed, such as it was with Cathy and
her daughter.
I became aware of some of the elements of deprogramming during the 60s and the
70s, when I was working to guard the integrity of certain file tapes and films
that were being created in legitimate experiments involving animals and human
beings, while working for the Defense Department. Later on, I gained an acute
interest in mind control as a result of what I had seen, because I envisioned
that our mental institutions and prisons could be benevolently cleared out,
and these people that were in there could become useful and productive
citizens through the moral application of this science. But, unfortunately, as
you well know, this was not the case.
The prognosis for someone recovering from what Cathy and tens of thousands of
others have experienced with this type of horrific mind control abuse, is
extraordinarily good. But there are certain rules that must be followed, some
basic rules that were handed to me through friends and people working inside,
I believe, the Central Intelligence Agency. It was during Cathy's recovery
that I was given these psychological tools to work with. Dr. Milton Ericson,
who is recognized as the founder of benevolent mind control, or NLP, as some
people call it these days, a form of mind manipulation on a subliminal level,
was instrumental in developing a number of research medical books which I was
presented with after rescuing Cathy.
Of course, my concern was that what I had seen during the 60s and the 70s was
being used in the most horrible way imaginable. I had heard rumors about this
sort of thing occurring while I was associated with a spin-off corporation
supply company for NASA during the mid 70s. I was totally taken aback and
decided, like so many other people who become whistle-blowers, to do
something. So I took it upon myself to rescue Cathy O'Brien and her daughter
in February of 1988, and as a result it has taken us many years to get to the
point of actually feeling protected enough to go public with this information.
For the past few years we have been working with law enforcement, both state
and federal and local authorities all over the United States and Canada � as a
matter of fact, with intelligence communities worldwide � as well as working
with mental health workers, and have established our credibility in that
regard so that the book would not be challenged by the mainstream.
Unfortunately for us, the book has not been challenged in court, for reasons
of national security. We want it to get into court. We have well over 27,000
hard proofs, including pictorial proofs, of Cathy O'Brien's and her daughter's
victimization. But to this date we have not been able to get that in front of
any court in the land, either civil or criminal, because of this amended 1947
National Security Act. By the way, Ronald Reagan amended the damn thing.
How have you managed to stay alive and get the word out about your experience?
MP: I think first of all, since we're just two of many, many people doing the
same thing. I've often heard it said that the big lies lack credulity, when in
fact, I don't believe the CIA or any of the government officials ever thought
that we would reach this point. Not to say that we outguessed them. I'm just
saying that they were not concerned ... there is so much corruption and so
much criminal behavior going on within our government., As you are well aware,
this country is now the largest drug dealing operation in the world. With this
sort of thing going on, we become very small potatoes, in effect. Secondly,
since we can't get it into a court of law and present our evidence, the only
thing that we have left as far as relief goes is to bring attention to this
thing in hopes that we can eventually force those in control of our
government, both good and bad, to help Kelly, Cathy's institutionalized
daughter. She is beyond my ability to treat, because her victimization was
primarily done technologically, and her brainstem is so well scarred that
affecting it from a psychological angle is impossible.
Explain that.
MP: It has a variety of names. Psytronics is one word. I call it harmonic
hell, or harmonic programming. Harmonic programming literally bypasses the
conscious mind and literally programs the subconscious, which programs the
conscious mind upon cues.
What tools do they use to do that?
MP. The equipment is a computer and a harmonic generator. You and I can
acquire a computer and we can acquire a harmonic generator. But to be able to
actually impact someone who is recovering, or wanted to recover from this type
of mind control abuse and gain control of their own mind, we would have to
have a very sophisticated program.
Let me give you a little background. You know, information is transferred,
cellularly speaking, in our brains with not the synapse itself, but the
covering of the synapse, the RNA. And this RNA covering transfers the signals
or cues from one part of the brain to the other through the vibration of each
particle in that covering. What has happened with Kelly is there are scars --
physical, visual on an MRI study or other types of dye studies in the brain --
she has physical scars that have been created from this type of, we'll call it
human mind violation, or brain violation. This scarring can be bridged and can
be impacted only the same way that it was put in, through the same type of
equipment. I was talking about this, of course, in the early 1990s ... by the
mid 1990s, the Center for Autism based out of Jackson, Mississippi, suddenly
said, Gee whiz, we've got a piece of equipment now, that we can take a 16 or
17 year-old autistic child, who has been totally noncommunicative and totally
nonproductive and in three to five weeks make him an ordinary person through
the use of harmonic control. And, yes, their equipment is based on the same
premise and the same ideas as the type of equipment that I'm aware of that was
used to program Kelly. Cathy experienced some of it, but Kelly experienced
this stuff from birth.
This is the next generation of programming technology?
MP: Yes, sit. Kelly was associated with it, or unfortunately, to it. I
understand there are other cerebral types of electronic devices that affect
the cerebral cortex that do not even require the operator to overtly work with
the person. They can actually zap somebody, if you want to use that term, from
a distance and the person thinks that their own thoughts are their own
thoughts when, in fact, they are someone else's. Now this type of technology
has been around a while. The Soviets were working with it back in the 50s and
60s, and had developed it to some degree, but now I understand that it has
reached a state of the art. So whether or not they are still using harmonics
for actual programming, I don't know. But I know they certainly were up until
the mid 80s.
Mark, how did you become aware that Cathy was involved with Project Monarch?
What were the signs and symptoms that you observed?
MP: I observed nothing. I had not actually met Cathy except one time. And the
symptoms are so subtle that even someone who is aware of it unless they are
looking for it specifically would not pay any attention. I became aware
because of a business that I had as a joint venture company � I was president
of Uniface Corporation, which manufactured with the People's Republic of China
[military], large capacitor banks for their mining industries. But they were
concerned that I had a business partner who was involved in CIA drug operadons
in this country and was also reporting directly to the White House. They were
extremely concerned that a faction of the CIA was interested in infiltrating
their military through this avenue. This is presumptive on my part, because
when I was presented with these facts, they did not tell me why they wanted me
to get this partner out, beyond the obvious. They gave me a complete dossier
[that suggested that he was involved with] child pornography manufacturing,
drug muling, money laundering, and the fact that he was using Cathy O'Brien
and her daughter within the country music industry.
He used the country music industry as a cover for these activities and, of
course, as in many glamour, fast-dollar, cash businesses like the
entertainment business or organized sports, they quickly addict their
musicians and their entertainers with these drugs so that they can recapture
the funds that the entertainers are making off the sale of their wares and
their talents.
[Also, regarding physical signs,] if you look, particularly in women, you will
see the white above the iris on their eyes when they are normally relaxed and
looking at you. In other words, that wide-eyed effect.
It's very attractive and is sought after in the motion picture industry.
That's the reason there are so many multiples, or people suffering from DID,
in the motion picture industry. It's because they can become their part. That
is a physical sign that does show up.
Now what was the turning point in your relationship with Cathy's handler, when
you decided to rescue her?
MP: Well, after the Chinese told me I had to get rid of this person, I had to
buy him out. I had consulted with some friends of mine who were active and
inactive both in the military and in the intelligence community, and I queried
them about the use of mind control in the private sector. Because I was still,
shall we say, a little bit dubious that he was actually working as an officer
for the CIA. Another thing, when the Chinese had told me that he was reporting
directly to the White House, this seemed like something totally out of
character and, knowing him the way I did, or at least the way I thought I did,
nobody in the White House, regardless of who it was, would want anyone of his
type in there. I was wrong. But nevertheless, I approached it from the angle
that Cathy O'Brien and her daughter needed to be pulled out of there. So I got
some advice on how to cue them, or actually how to cue Cathy O'Brien on the
phone, and got her out of there.
By "cue" you mean what?
MP: Well, triggering is the key word. But cuing or triggering is...
Explain that, if you would, please.
MP: Well, for instance, you are familiar with the Pavlovian studies, where
Pavlov would condition a dog with a steak, then eventually show the dog a
picture of a steak and the dog still salivates. In other words, the steak is
only in the mind of the dog. Well, that is a cue.
It's a verbal trigger.
MP: Well, you can use verbal triggers, you can use hand signals --anything
that can be tactilely experienced can be used or programmed in as a cue or
trigger. So I merely triggered Cathy O'Brien to depart [her handler's] abode
while he was "on vacation" up in Boys' Town. He was named, by the way, in The
Franklin Cover-up as being one of the perpetrators up there, for going up and
sexually assaulting those children at Boys' Town. As a matter of fact, he has
the keys to Boys' Town, the proverbial big keys, hanging on his wall.
Cathy, what was your first moment of self awareness in freedom when you
realized "I am who I am, and not a slave of someone else"?
CO: It was about eight months after Mark rescued my daughter Kelly and me that
I regained any conscious awareness at all. That is when the trance was
actually broken and when I became able to think for myself again. That was
when I first realized my own identity, so to speak. But it was quite a
process, at least for two years after that, of intensive deprogramming, so
that I gained more and more access and control over my own mind to where my
knowledge of my identity was strengthened that much more. The eight month
period was an enormous turning point for me. Up until then, I was so robotic
that I couldn't even think to escape the CIA mind control victimization or to
bring my daughter out of it.
How do you remember your first experience of your own free will? What
happened?
MP: I can answer that one for her. Do you want me to? I can tell you where it
happened. It happened in the Carr's grocery store parking lot in Eagle River,
Alaska. Cathy had a demeanor -- she had really half a dozen different faces
and demeanors, so that when she would shift personas her appearance would
change. She had one singular demeanor, her walk, her gait, that she had that
was reminiscent of a couple of her programmed personalities. She had responded
to a question of nine in the car just as we had pulled into the parking lot.
She apparently registered on that particular thing. I was locking the car up,
and I noticed that her walk changed, and when she turned to me to say, "Come
on, hurry up," I noticed that her face had gone back to what I had seen so
many times during the deprogramming process, which I considered to be [die
real] Cathy O'Brien. It never changed. Not ever again, not once.
Of course, awareness of time is very important to determine whether or not a
person is actually switching personas or is not themselves. Cathy quit losing
time at that point and never lost time again. So, I would say she became more
aware of everything in her environment. She told me at that point the floor
came up and felt different to her as she walked.
Awareness of being.
MP: A cognitive awareness of being, is the best analogy that I can think of
Mark, in your video presentations you mention that inter-generational incest
produces a higher IQ. You said that these scientists sexually abuse their own
children. What is the basis of this assertion?
MP: I've got to reframe that statement for you. In many cases it raises the
IQ. In most cases, but not all. In some cases the child seems to go backwards.
Now, I'm sure that NASA and ARPA and all the rest of the agencies know exactly
how to predict this now. But I have not a clue. Cathy O'Brien has an above
average IQ. Her daughter has an above average IQ, and demonstrates an IQ that
you might consider genius, but in testing it just shows slightly above
average. The doctors who have worked with DID and MPD over the years all have
reported to the APA, both American Psychological and American Psychiatric
Associations, that it seems to provide an above-average IQ, this type of
horrific abuse. I think actually, in essence, what it does is it just causes a
person to heighten their skills of survival to the point to where they
actually access parts of their brain that a normal person would never access.
Cathy, in your book you write that you were also used as a courier delivering
hypnotically induced verbal messages to various individuals. Could you
describe some incidents that took place?
CO: 'Mere were numerous instances where I delivered messages to drug lords or
to politicians who were involved in criminal activity. I wouldn't really have
any comprehension of what I was even delivering, because I would deliver it
verbatim as it was programmed, even using the voice inflections of my
programmers.
Cathy, what has been your experience with the so-called Global 2000 education
plan?
CO: I was forced to work directly under Reagan's education secretary, Bill
Bennett. I also had to work under Lamar Alexander, who was heavily involved in
implementing Global Education 2000 into the school system. This Global
Education 2000 is also referred to as outcome-based education, America 2000,
Goals 2000. There are several different names for it. But it amounts to
increasing the children's learning capacity while decreasing their ability to
critically analyze. This way they would readily accept whatever information
was being pumped into their heads without question. And it was my experience
that much of the information that is being pumped into their heads through
this education program is pro-socialism and pro-New World Order, to where the
children will automatically accept it and...
Is there a component of behavior modification or mind control in this as well,
or how would you characterize it?
CO: Absolutely. I would characterize it as mind control on a more subtle level
than what I experienced. My experience was totally robotic. But, yes, what
they are doing is in some cases they are even using trauma to increase the
suggestibility level of the children so that they can absorb more information
photographically.
MP: That would be pseudotrauma.
Pseudo-trauma is what?
MP: In other words, I think Disney has done a great job in conditioning our
children over the years, at least for the past four decades, using pseudo-
trauma, when you see the various cartoons with all the violence in them.
Pseudotrauma, is a conditioning process for exactly that purpose --
desensitization.
CO: I know of instances where hypnosis is actually used on the children to put
the information in further. There was also a lot of discussion pertaining to,
as children use computers for gaining their information, that they would also
wear headphones which could harmonically enhance their absorption of the
information. But just because they can photographically record all the
information, doesn't mean that they have any ability to actually critically
use it in any way or creatively use it in any way.
Cathy, in this plan to consolidate political and economic power on a global
scale, the so-called New World Order, were you aware of who was pulling their
strings?
CO: I know that there is an elite group that is in control of this whole New
World Order effort, but it was my experience to have witnessed the extensive
power of George Bush. It was my experience that George Bush actually ran this
country during the Reagan administration, and that plans were already
established where he would run the country during the Clinton administration,
so that is three different administrations that I know of where George Bush
was actually in power and control for the purposes of bringing in this New
World Order.
Now, who was he reporting to? Do you have any sense of that?
CO: I don't know who he was reporting to, or who he was taking orders from. I
only know that Bill Clinton took orders from him. Ronald Reagan took orders
from him. Not robotically, not like mind control, but because this was their
shared effort and George Bush was one that had the information, that they were
following. I also was aware that at the time George Bush was in control, while
Reagan was president, the vice president of Mexico, Salinas, was actually in
control of much of the country during De La Madrid's presidency, and it was
planned that as George Bush and Salinas went from vice president into the
presidency, as planned in both countries, that at that time NAFTA would be
implemented. It was also planned, according to discussions that I overheard
and through George Bush's controls and influence, that the Canadian prime
minister, Brian Mulrooney, would also be a part of bringing in NAFTA, which of
course is very much a part of ushering in this New World Order.
Now Mark and Cathy both, why haven't you been sued for libel? Also, why
haven't you sued the perpetrators of these horrible atrocities against you?
MP: As I mentioned briefly earlier, we were stopped from the onset from
presenting anything in a court of law. For instance, in juvenile court, which
is the so-called family court in Tennessee, where Kelly was locked into the
system, the judge made a statement in open court that this particular case was
not about laws, since national security issues were at hand. Now we have. that
on audio tape and we also have the district attorney up there who was more
than willing to present his testimony to this same statement. But they made
the statement that we could not have any justice through the court system for
reasons of national security. Now we can't be sued either, because we can
present evidences that, of course, would have to be stopped for reasons of
national security.
In other words, if [names a former U.S. President] sued you for calling him a
pedophile, this would never take place?
MP: No. Exactly. We couldn't do it, and [he] is not going to do that anyway.
There has been me other case when a Nebraska senator representing a number of
people in the Franklin cover-up also named [him] as a pedophile and I know of
a couple of mothers that had children at the Presidio that [he] regularly
entertained himself with, reportedly.
You alluded to Reagan amending the National Security Act. Would you explain
that?
MP: In essence, it gave the CIA a fall reign of terror over any American
citizen to do anything they wanted to, anytime, any place, anywhere and
involving anything, and it could not be prosecuted for reasons of national
security, as long as the intelligence community was involved. Now that didn't
necessarily apply only to the CIA. It applied to all other branches of
national security as well, including the military.
CO: This is a "national security" that is threatening the security of our
nation when it covers up such crimes against humanity as the rape and
molestation of women's and children's minds and bodies, when it allows for the
CIA to have their so-called war on drugs, which was no more than the CIA
eliminating their competition worldwide as they took over the industry. And it
is appalling to think that this "national security" is being implemented to
cover up these kinds of crimes against humanity, while at the same time
selling our country out to New World Order controls.
Cathy, you say you were scheduled to be murdered in a snuff film when you
turned 30 years old. How did the synchronicity of Mark finding you just before
then strike you in retrospect?
CO: It's routine that mind control slaves, particularly sex slaves, are
disposed of at the age of 30. The sex slaves in particular, because they are
considered too old and used up by that time. So, like so many others, I was to
be killed at the age of 30 and it was right at that age that Mark Phillips
interceded and was able to save me from scheduled death, and Kelly from a fate
that certainly would have been worse than death. So his timing was profound.
MP: It had nothing to do with planning, I can assure you that.
That's great. Cathy, you have a daughter, Kelly, who has also been abused and
is now being held as a political prisoner in Tennessee. Can you talk about her
and how you plan to get her released?
CO: Kelly knows that Mark and I are not going to stop in our effort to give
her the same peace of mind that I know comes with full recovery. She knows
that we are going to continue in our effort to obtain her right to qualified
rehabilitation. She knows our family motto, "It's not over until we win," and
there's no question about it, we will win. Because, like truth, Mark and I
don't go away and we are going to persist until Kelly is mentally and
physically free from the grasp of these people.
MP: By the way, there are a number of rumors that surfaced about our book
TranceFormation of America being out of print or that we've been stopped, or
we've been silenced or this or that. Those are misinformation. Our book will
remain in print forever, until such time as Kelly is helped.* TranceFormation
of America is available from Reality Marketing, PO Box 27740, Las Vegas, NV
89126
34-41
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Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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