-Caveat Lector-
You're right, Jim. But he must die first, in order to be reborn.
And he dies for the community.
After President Kennedy's death, the nation did seem to move in a new
direction: escalation of the war in Viet Nam, the movement toward
globalism and free trade,a widening gap between the haves and have-nots...
For my generation, it was a definite turning point...
By the way, Elvis IS still the king!
Best wishes, have a nice day out there..
On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Jim Kinney wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I have not read the Murray work, thank you for the reference. Actually,
> I think it is not so much the sacrificed king motif that is prevalent
> throughout myth and occult philosophy though, but that of the
> resurrected king. We have stories of Arthur waiting until he is needed
> again, Barbarossa (sic) is the same. Resurrection cults include the
> Osiris cult, Attis, Dionysis, Mithras and Christ (and that's just a
> sampling). It isn't the fact that the king dies that is important, it
> is the fact that the king is born again. In this way I think that Elvis
> is probably much closer to the Divine King in most traditions that I've
> seen (like I said, I haven't read the Murray book) than Kennedy is.
> (Elvis is still thought by many to be alive and apparently hanging out
> at Dunkin Donuts).
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Mr. Kinney,
>
> You will find information on "the killing of the divine king" in
> Margaret
> Alice Murray's THE DIVINE KING IN ENGLAND London: Faber and
> Faber, 1954.
>
> You will read that the sacrificial slaughter of a king is an
> integral
> part of the occult lore of Europe and, interestingly, in the
> Native
> American civilizations of mesoamerica...
>
> The sacrificial king motif goes back to Egypt to the Osiris-Isis
> cult.. Osiris's body is dismembered in order to life to
> others...etc.
> The myth is embedded in the teachings of a number of secret
> societies..
>
> Best wishes,
> Wm
> On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Mr. Caulfield (or do you go by 'Catcher?),
> >
> > Thanks for the Kennedy material. It was interesting....
> Screwy.... But
> > interesting. Ok, how many of you out there really think that
> Kennedy
> > was killed as an occult conspiracy? Show of hands. How many
> of you out
> > there think that there are more holes in that theory than in
> the whole
> > 'I tried it and I didn't like it. I never inhaled' story?
> How many
> > think that the CIA and Mafia working together, implausible
> though it
> > might seem, has a much, much higher probabilty of being right?
> (I'm not
> > saying that that's what happened, just that it seems much more
> probable
> > given the evidence) Who's 'occult ritual' is the 'killing of
> the divine
> > king'? Please try to give me a reference that ISN'T using it
> in
> > reference to Kennedy. I want an alchemical or occult text. I
> believe
> > it may exist, but I want to see it quoted. Please also
> provide the name
> > of the Project Pegasus 'deep cover agent' and proof he once
> lived or at
> > the very least where I can download the sound files from the
> tapes.
> > Otherwise all of that info is completely unverifiable. Like I
> said..
> > very interesting, but I need more independent verification,
> not the
> > mutual pat-on-the-back aren't-we-so-clever conspiracy journals
> that all
> > use each other as references. Verifiable government documents
> would be
> > nice. Please understand that I am not trying to say that
> these things
> > don't exist, just that if you want to get to the heart of it
> you need to
> > work on more than 'so-and-so said they talked to someone who
> claimed
> > they knew.' Thanks though.. some of the info was very valid
> I think.
> >
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