-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, M. A. Johnson wrote: > From: "M. A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > MJ: > *I* advocate the individual deciding for himself. > Poley: > Welcome to the ranks of direct democracy. > > MJ: > You are again attempting to redefine that which you are > discussing. > > > Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: > I merely gave a definition for a "democratic society" as it > is explicitly called in the Canadian Constitution/Charter > of Rights and Freedoms. That is, "One eligible citizen/voter-one > vote-as often as they want to vote-on anything within their > jurisdiction." > MJ: > Now MORE out of context bs ... you CLAIMED the above was in the > Swiss Constitution ... and now you posit it in response to the > above? Is it your hope that one cannot follow the silliness? Liar. Show me where I said that. I said it is de facto the Swiss Constitution because they can initiate a referendum on ANY matter even a constitutional one. The ultimate power is DEMOCRATIC. > MJ: > A Democracy rule by a majority. > Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: > Yes but the definition needs more spelling out as I have done > or you get the Al Gore's going around the world boasting that > Tweedle Dum-Tweedle Dee elections are democracy. > MJ: > 'More spelling out' changes the concept. What does AlGore have > to do with any of this? He is a bigger liar than you and hence an apt political leader for a grade 8 level Republican like yourself. > MJ: > What I am advocating is rule by the individual to whatever > end *he* desires so long as he extends the SAME courtesy > to others -- ie. the STANDARD of an individual's RIGHT to > his OWN life. There is NO voting whether or not to suspend > this standard. A Government exists merely to PROTECT all > individuals from FORCE and FRAUD. > > Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: > The "rule by the individual to whatever end he desires" was defined > by 80% of the voting citizens of BC in 1991. That is why BC now > has a direct democracy albeit at a fledgling stage. > MJ: > You cannot see the trees for the forest. There are no limits in > a democracy -- the mob can vote for anything they desire. And you are a MORON who calls elephants strawberries. A mob is a mob. A democracy (as BC is now-albeit at a fledgling stage) is a democracy. And we don't need your stupidities. > Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: > "There is NO > voting...." and the Johnsonfuhrer has made himself clear again. > MJ: > Ad hominem, strawman ... reread the above. I stated there was a > STANDARD which can never be circumvented. Discourse is senseless > when one cannot read or think. When the hominem is an idiot, you bet it is an ad hominem. I call a spade a spade. > Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: > Even capital punishment or no capital punishment will be decided > by the Citizens not the Johsonfuhrers of the land. > MJ: > Strawman. No a political Idiot of a man unwilling to accept that the corrupt political order he stands for is OVER. Comprende, idiot? FWP. > Regard$, > --MJ > > Nichts ist schwerer und nichts erfordert mehr Charakter, als > sich in offenem Gegensatz zu seiner Zeit zu befinden und laut > zu sagen: Nein! -- Kurt Tucholsky And a Heil Hitler to you too! FWP. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
