-Caveat Lector- 12/23/02 12:05:27 PM, William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Isn't it better to help Volkswagen out than to be killed? > The point was that these Zionists were given breaks that even common German > citizens were not. Seems to me that this collaboration is rather interesting. I'm not sure the folks who remained in Germany were "Zionists" for the most part. They were considered to be highly undesireable and given the war efforts on the Eastern Front, they were replacements for those who were being frozen to death on the plains and in the Steppe. Slavery is an indefensible institution for the most part. Just ask who knows how many GIs who are suffering from Gulf War Syndrome and a variety of other afflictions like being governed by a fellow who bugged out of his commitment while those who spent their lives making sure he would be replaced. Of course, the GIs volunteer(ed) and did and do get moolah for their efforts. Yet, being denied care and treatment for those things they HAD to do (turning down a paycheck or saying "I quit" don't keep no one outta Leavenworth)(here the moolah is like the slaves' housing and food) as a modern form of indentured servitude. Yes, there are benefits to being "freed" just as their are benefits to having been "chained". We can debate all the live long day what was better ... certain death or the emaciation of body and soul with life or death as certain as the toss of a coin ... BUT a lot depends on whether that determination is made by the individuals concerned or the observors. Schindler's list of folks (read the book instead) apparently felt that being workers was better than being wormers. Thom Jefferson's dilemma was multifold given his position and experience. Did he keep his people in relative safety and security or did he let them go to uncertain futures? Did he let them go on out to assimilate or would he have risked another Haiti (the reason for his closing the sale on the Louisiana Purchase)? Did he allow the status quo or was he going to sacrifice everything he gained by establishing the United States to allow it to dissolve in a Civil War? We can sit back all the live long day and "doo-da, doo-da" about what shoulda been done or what coulda been done or what woulda been done, strutting like barnyard cockfowl about how things mighta been different and perhaps better -- through the lens of the eyes of our times. Don't forget that many if not most of our forebears made these judgments for us when they told their Motherlands and Fatherlands to "kiss off" and came to North America ... many to become wage and other kinds of slaves. There was a different dream that kept them going, though. Shackled yes; and alive. Work made some people free. It's all a matter of degree that none of us can understand except through our own reason and experience and reasons. A<>E<>R <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'�with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds�is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
