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Drills confounding NORAD, what about Andrews AFB? Any
real journalist ought to quickly uncover Potomac Valley TRACON,
which puts Andrews as FAA flight control and being on the same
electronic page with Dulles and Reagan National. Then go into
decentralized established procedures and debunk the NORAD
centralization false chain of command for restricted airspace
and hijacking matters.
 
Drills confounded a strawman of an imaginary centralization process.
I consider it no more than equally tangential to mention that the
Potomac Valley TRACON has been moved to a central location
which was an Army electronic warfare center previously, Vint Hill
Station. That really puts Andrews on the same page as Dulles.
There's a bait-and-switch going on concerning "FAA" jurisdiction,
civilian versus military, military NORAD elsewhere versus supposedly
civilian FAA locally, when it's all seamlessly interconnected by
established procedure obviating the need for Andrews to consult
NORAD or the President.
 
-Bob
 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 5:02 AM
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] A Warning About Stanley Hilton, Barbara Honneger and Alex Jones

A Warning About Stanley Hilton, Barbara Honneger and Alex Jones

Mike Ruppert,

I also find it strange that Alex Jones does not return my phone calls.  I know Barbara Honneger well and have great respect for her but I think her theory that drills confounded NORAD are way off the mark.  She is wrong in my opinion but she is no shill.

I did not find this Stanley Hilton interview flawed. I will reserve my opinion until I can question Hilton myself but until then I appreciate your warning.  The tactic of the JUDAS GOAT LEADER has been used successfully over and over and over again.  When will they ever learn?

I would be happy to preview your manuscript as I did Fletcher Prouty's  THE SAIGON SOLUTION that his publishers insisted be titled JFK to piggy back on the publicity of the OLIVER STONE movie. Because of that fuck up this book has been placed in the JFK assassination section of bookstores and libraries instead of in the VIETNAM section where it should be.

Brian Downing Quig
>
>
> A word of warning to all those who are ecstatic and jumping over

Stanley
> Hilton's so-called revelations. He and Jones combined are extremely
> dangerous. Recently, Jones wrote a piece on Patriot II that was full

of
> fabrications and shameless distortions. Jones even fabricated a

section of
> bill S22 that he said was going to call for the mandatory

registration of
> all firearms in the country. The bill actually contained a specific
> provision prohibiting that.
>
> His interview with Hilton was full of just as many distortions and I

have
> never trusted or accepted Honneger's modified-limited hangout and I

have
> proven it to be false in by upcoming book, "Crossing the Rubicon."

The
> reason is simple: Honneger asserts that the attacks were masked by

some 9-11
> exercise which prevented officials from knowing of real hijackings.

In my
> book I establish the exact times that FAA knew of the 9-11

hijackings and
> that they were NOT drills. Then I show the exact breakdowns in

proceedure
> that occurred after it was known that they were real hijackings,

after FAA
> and NORAD knew that the twin towers had been hit and after the White

House
> and Secret Service had issued clear warnings to prevent Flt 93 from

reaching
> Washington. Flt 93 was shot down pursuant to that order.
>
> It is my strong belief that Stanley Hilton is the Daniel Sheehan of

the new
> century and that anyone who allies with him will be as discredited

and broke
> as those who supported the Christic Institute. He has rounded up 400

victim
> families and he will destroy their case exactly the same way that

Sheehan
> destroyed Martha Honey's and all who were involved in that one. As

for Alex
> Jones I still want to believe that he is just over-energized,

careless and
> sloppy. But even at that he is playing directly into the

opposition's hands.
>
> Hilton's discourse was the most unrpofessional dialogue I have ever

heard
> from a lawyer in a public setting. And the man was a close colleague

of Bob
> Dole. Does anyone get the picture?
>
> Read below for just one of his many factual and very serious

exaggerations
> in the radio broadcast. Before allying with someone who insists that
> "they're coming after white people" I encourage anyone who signs on

to this
> thread to click on the link and listen to the full broadcast for

yourselves.
> Make up your own minds. If, after that, you still want to align with

this
> nonsense then it's on you and you will deserve what you get for it.
>
> Mike Ruppert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Ruppert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [consortium] Listen to archived interview of attorney

Stanley
> G. Hilton ...
>
> I listened to this interview very closely.
>
> Mark my words.
>
> Alex Jones is a bit megalomanical and he has been salted with such
> incredible nuggets of disniformation that he will be destroyed by

his own
> carelesness. He made at least a dozen - small in his mind - factual
> distortions during broadcast. As one example, McCarthy-like he said

he had
> all these sources about how Judicial Watch people had been

threatened with
> arrest at gunpoint for trying to serve a subpoena on the White House

asking
> why Bush was taking Cipro before the attacks. The actual real story

is that
> Judicial Watch process servers were trying to serve Cheney with a

summons on
> bahlf of the suit filed by Halliburton shareholders and they were

denied
> admittance by guards who happened to be armed. This is a classic

Alex Jones
> screw up! I recently caught and indirectly confronted him over

outright
> fabrications regarding Patriot II.
>
> But Hilton, who was a senior staffer to Bob Dole is far, far worse.

He is
> the reincarnation of Daniel Sheehan who will destroy the lawsuit

from the
> inside. Not only did he pander to pro-white, anti-Semitic overtones,

he took
> the exaggerated points that Jones made and took some even further.

His
> bahvior was unprofessional to say the least just as it was utterly
> unprofessional when Daniel Sheehan submitted an affidavit listing

witnesses
> who were non-existent or who had been dead for some time.
>
> Mark my words. All of the victim families who put their faith in

Hilton are
> going to be betrayed as badly as the thousands who put their faith

in
> Sheehan. Isn't it strange the Hilton failed to respond to about 50

phone
> calls from FTW where he would have been asked different questions

and yet he
> was availalble to go on Alex Jones.
>
> The fear-mongering, racially-tinged, "They're coming after white

people!",
> tone of Jones' broadcast made me sick.
>
> MR
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> --------------------------
> Mike Ruppert
> From The Wilderness Publications
>

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