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-Caveat Lector-
 
Yes, I read the story but thought I would be polite and not comment on it, particularly after looking at the stories carried by the paper it came from.  The above site is a series of posts on the topic that I would recommend as a response to you.  Knowledgeable individuals have spent time gathering much information that should be reviewed by others before they jump to conclusions based on the slippery story you posted.
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From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean McBride
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

-Caveat Lector-
Zuukie,
 
I posted in this group several days ago the full text of an article which mentions three reasons, apart from the testimony of one woman,  to believe that the Israeli spies in question celebrated the destruction of the World Trade Center.
 
The article is here:
 
 
Are you able to read the article and to identify the three reasons I am alluding to?
 
Let me be of assistance:
 
1. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image showed a hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a pop concert.
 
2. An employee of Urban Moving said his co-workers had laughed about the Manhattan attacks the day they happened. “I was in tears,” the man said. “These guys were joking and that bothered me. These guys were like, ‘Now America knows what we go through.’”
 
3. Their lawyers and the embassy say their ghoulish and sinister celebrations as the Twin Towers blazed and thousands died were due to youthful foolishness.
 
Comments?
 
In an earlier post, you dismissed the reports of Odigo advance warnings not being of significance.  Why?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Zuukie
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

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I tried posting my answers to your questions three times, and only on the third time did my post appear.  You have given no sources that can be checked for your information.  Since you made the original allegations, I would suggest you post sources and then I will give sources in rebuttal.  Saying  that numerous government investigators have viewed the video is not a valid comment unless a source is given.  Your entire first post gave no sources other than your opinion based on whatever you read.  A scholar you are not.  A propagandist is what you are.
-----Original Message-----
From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean McBride
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

-Caveat Lector-
Mr. Rarey,
 
The Israeli spies hung themselves with their own video, which has been viewed by numerous government investigators.  We are not reliant on the testimony of a single woman in this case to know how the Israelis behaved.
 
What is there about Israel which is capable of dimming the minds of even highly intelligent people?  Look at what it has done to "geniuses" like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, who assured us that invading Iraq would be a cakewalk and that Iraqi oil would pay for the entire venture.  Instead, Americans are now paying hundreds of billions of dollars for the privilege of being trapped in a bottomless hellhole in the Mideast.  We are being RUINED by the brilliant advice of pro-Israel zealots.
 
It is highly revealing that the best you can come up with on this topic is the nitpicking post below.  Your instinct whenever the subject of Israel comes up is to attack critics of Israel, usually in a way that is embarrassing to yourself and which undercuts your reputation for being a fearless conspiracy investigator.  Michael Ruppert fell into the same trap, although he has shown some efforts recently to correct the problem.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rarey
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

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Prudy,
 
I don't follow your reasoning if that's what it is. You say no (we don't have the word of just one woman?)  we have the written words of the police officers who answered her call.
 
Because the officers wrote down what the woman told them, do we now have more than one witness? Why not have ten officers report what the woman said and then will we  have 11 witnesses?
 
Not very clear thinking, Prudy.
 
JR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Prudy L
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

-Caveat Lector-
In a message dated 11/4/2003 10:39:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Why did these Israelis, some of whom were Mossad operatives, celebrate the destruction of the WTC?

We have the word of one woman looking thru binoculars into a parking lot
No we have the written words of the police officers who answered her call.  These answers are not very good Zuukie.  Prudy
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