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--- Begin Message --- -Caveat Lector-"Prime Minister Shokri Ghanem denying Tripoli played any role in the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103...Ghanem said Libya had accepted responsibility and paid $2.7 billion to families of the 270 victims in the terrorist attack only to placate the international community and end economic sanctions..."After the sanctions and after the problems we have [been] facing because of the sanctions, the loss of money, we thought that it was easier for us to buy peace," the Libyan prime minister said in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp." "
"...from someone who normally says the right thing. Ghanem has been champion of economic reform and outreach to the West," said a State Department official familiar with the new U.S. policy on Libya who spoke on the condition of anonymity."
"Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, argued recently that the decision to confront Saddam Hussein sent such a strong message worldwide that Moammar Khadafy, the Libyan leader, agreed to surrender his nuclear and chemical weapons...Kerry waves that argument away: "Everybody who knows anything about Libya and Khadafy knows that is not what brought him around." "
Robin Wright, Washington Post Staff Writer, Tuesday, January 27, 2004; Page A14
Note that the week BEFORE Senator John Kerry started
In his first talks with U.S. legislators in almost four decades[This is a lie! Chasey's book describes a trip to Tripoli by Chasey and Congressman Carroll Hubbard in 1992! -BobD]
winning primaries, the Washington Post reported as if a
letter posted from Libya in 1992 arrived in 2004
Senator John F. Kerry
Chairman of Subcommittee on
Terrorism, Narcotics and
International Operations
421 SROB
Washington DC 20035
USA
October 28, 1992
Dear Senator Kerry,
The Secretariat of the Libyan People's Congress on behalf of the
Libyan people is pleased to address you...
http://www.denverpost.com/cda/article/print/0,1674,36%257E29805%257E2001219,00.html
Haiti leader deserved aid, Kerry says
Dem touts help for those elected
Sunday, March 07, 2004 -
SwissHOUSTON - Had he been sitting in the Oval Office as rebel forces were threatening to enter Port-au-Prince, Sen. John Kerry says he would have sent an international force into the city to protect Haiti's widely disliked but democratically elected leader, Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
"I would have been prepared to send troops immediately, period," Kerry said Friday, expressing astonishment that President Bush withheld any aid and then helped spirit the island's leader into exile after telling him the United States could not protect him.
"Look, Aristide was no picnic and did a lot of things wrong," Kerry said. But Washington "had understandings in the region about the right of a democratic regime to ask for help. And we contravened all of that. I think it's a terrible message to the region, democracies, and it's shortsighted."
In an hour-long interview, he hopscotched around the world to cast doubts on Bush's judgment beyond their well-aired differences on Iraq, questioning his handling of North Korea, the Mideast peace process and the spread of nuclear weapons.
He also argued that he would rewrite the Bush strategy that makes pre-emption a declared, central tenet of American policy.
The core of Kerry's argument in the interview was that divisions within Bush's foreign policy team have frozen the art of preventive diplomacy - and kept Secretary of State Colin Powell from doing his job. Kerry rarely misses a chance to praise Powell, a fellow Vietnam veteran, and then to distinguish him from the rest of the administration.
"I think simply Powell - who I know, like and admire - has been never permitted to be fully a secretary of state in the way that I envision the secretary of state," he said, describing how he believes Powell has been regularly undercut by the administration's more hawkish members, led by Vice President Dick Cheney.
In a radio address broadcast Saturday, a response to Bush's weekly radio commentary, Kerry dwelled at length on the stories of American military units scrounging for private donations of steel plates for their Humvees and body armor before they deploy to Iraq.
"This administration has given billions to Halliburton and requested $82 million to protect Iraq's 36 miles of coastline," he said. "But they call this basic body armor a 'non-priority' item."
To talk to Bush's national security advisers and then to Kerry is to hear a very different description of the current state of America's influence in the world. For example, Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, argued recently that the decision to confront Saddam Hussein sent such a strong message worldwide that Moammar Khadafy, the Libyan leader, agreed to surrender his nuclear and chemical weapons.
Kerry waves that argument away: "Everybody who knows anything about Libya and Khadafy knows that is not what brought him around."
http://www.sitbot.net/htm/12968.html
From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:30 pm
Subject: Lockerbie: Libyan bedouins rout Tory ROT today!!!
"Prime Minister Shokri Ghanem denying Tripoli played any role in the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103...Ghanem said Libya had accepted responsibility and paid $2.7 billion to families of the 270 victims in the terrorist attack only to placate the international community and end economic sanctions..."After the sanctions and after the problems we have [been] facing because of the sanctions, the loss of money, we thought that it was easier for us to buy peace," the Libyan prime minister said in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp." "
"...from someone who normally says the right thing. Ghanem has been champion of economic reform and outreach to the West," said a State Department official familiar with the new U.S. policy on Libya who spoke on the condition of anonymity."
Major news media are carrying the story today. It is
turnabout for the Libyans to win a front page spot for
their take on Lockerbie, because US infowar prevented
any hearing of the Libyan side either in media or in
Senator Kerry's sub-committee in 1992. It is a rout
because it is too late for Bushwhacker pirates to let go
of the story which they pirated from the 1992 Libya
letter to Kerry, and truly a rout because no Libyan timers
in Lockerbie follows no wmd in Iraq. There is no way
for Kerry to ignore this because he received the Libyan
offer in a letter in 1992.
Turnabout is fair play. The Swiss timers for the Lockerbie
Pan Am 103 bombing were sold to the East German Stasi
intelligence service, not the Libyans, the Iranians and their
funding were run by CIA through David Lovejoy aka
Lu Choi, McKee and Gannon were put on Pan Am 103
by CIA Robert Booth Nichols, CIA asset Syrian Iran-Contra
coke and heroin player Monzer Al Kasser carried the bomb
part way for the Palestinian cutouts, and the bomb was
placed on board at Frankfurt, Germany, using Russell
Opium Trust asset Monzer Al Kasser's normal method
of placing heroin on board at Frankfurt.
You have to admire the generalship of this infowar turnabout
which has surfaced the Libyan side of the Lockerbie Pan Am
103 bombing case as Libya was never able to do in the 1990's
in the first round. The bedouins have swooped on the bloody
bombers like the over-mountain men annihilating Bloody
Tarleton. Also like the over-mountain men, the bedouins
have shown the American colonists that the Tories are liars,
they are wrong, the opium combination mercenaries can be
defeated by us. On their heels! The original American
colonists had never won a major victory when the over
mountain men, some veterans of the French and Indian war,
showed the way. Today the Libyan bedouins have come out
from their tents for war and they are routing the colonialist
mercenaries in a long-running infowar over Lockerbie. I
love it when a plan comes together!
Libya mailed a letter to Senator Kerry of ROT(Russell Opium
Trust, Tory ROT) in 1992 which arrived in 2004 one week
before Kerry began to campaign for the US presidential
election next November. Kerry had ignored the letter in
1992, playing his infowar role to suppress a threat of
exposure of Tory ROT's guns and drugs privateering. So
the Lockerbie bombing was a coverup and then the coverup
of that coverup was just as urgently needed by the Tory
privateers. What Tory ROT Skull and Bones privateer Kerry
did was part and parcel of the downing of Pan Am 103, as
Kerry covered up the coverup which destroyed evidence and
the McKee Commission On Tory ROT before McKee and
Gannon could deliver their report on Tory ROT drug and guns
privateering.
The Justice Department followed up as part of the conspiracy.
Kerry's silence upon receipt of the Libyan offer of 1992 to
Kerry as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Sub
Committee on Narcotics, Terrorism, and Operations(of
Tory ROT). DoJ's contribution to the infowar to suppress
exposure of Tory ROT was to muzzle Libya's lobbyist,
William C. Chasey, so Libya could not get the press play
they have just won today, which would have forced Kerry
to hear Libya's 1992 offer in his sub-committee in 1992.
Now it would seem there must be congressional hearings
and survivor civil suit hearings. Finally, the front page!
-Bob
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A2401-2004Feb24?language=printer
U.S. Freezes Plan After Libyan Denial
By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 25, 2004; Page A19
The Bush administration abruptly reversed course yesterday and canceled plans to lift the travel ban and other restrictions on Libya, after remarks by Prime Minister Shokri Ghanem denying Tripoli played any role in the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103.
Ghanem said Libya had accepted responsibility and paid $2.7 billion to families of the 270 victims in the terrorist attack only to placate the international community and end economic sanctions.
"After the sanctions and after the problems we have [been] facing because of the sanctions, the loss of money, we thought that it was easier for us to buy peace," the Libyan prime minister said in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp.
The remarks came just hours before a scheduled State Department briefing to announce the lifting of a 23-year travel ban and other first steps to reward Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi for agreeing to end his quest for weapons of mass destruction.
The briefing was canceled as U.S. officials criticized the Libyan government and called for an immediate retraction. The Libyan's statement could jeopardize the initiative, they warned. "This is certainly a factor that we would need to take into account as we decide how to proceed," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher told reporters.
Ghanem's comments contradicted a Libyan letter to the United Nations last August formally accepting responsibility for the attack, after years of international pressure on Tripoli.
"We need to understand that the Libyan position is the one they stated authoritatively to the United Nations in writing for all the other steps to continue apace," Boucher said. "We basically conveyed the message that I've conveyed today, that it's important for Libya to retract these statements and to make clear what their policy is as soon as possible."
Families of the 189 Americans who died on the 747 jumbo jetliner, which crashed in Lockerbie, Scotland, just days before Christmas, were enraged by the Libyan denial.
"It's no surprise to me. The Libyans are very untrustworthy. If the Bush administration imagines that it's going to have an easy time with this [rapprochement] and the Libyans will end up looking respectable, they're kidding themselves. This is the same old Gaddafi. He'll do this again and again," said Susan Cohen, whose daughter Thea, 20, was among the victims.
Cohen, whose family refused to accept Libyan funds, called the Libyan prime minister's claim that Tripoli paid compensation to buy peace "personally humiliating. I find it absolutely repellant."
Bob Monetti, president of Families of Pan Am 103, called the Libyans "lunatics. They can't seem to fess up to what they've done and get on with what's next. It's absolutely frustrating."
Despite the diplomatic setback, the United States and Britain continue to help Libya dismantle its nuclear and chemical weapons and missile programs, U.S. officials said. Washington is still intent on converting the north African state into a model of peaceful disarmament and reestablishing a diplomatic presence in Tripoli, U.S. officials said.
After a quarter-century of dormant relations, two U.S. diplomats are now in Libya and two more had been expected to arrive soon, according to State Department officials.
"Libya is making important progress in their efforts to dismantle their WMD programs. . . . As they take these important steps, they will be able to realize better relations with the United States," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters yesterday.
Although there were already signs yesterday that Tripoli wants to repair the damage, U.S. officials said Ghanem's comments were likely to have a lingering impact and engender new skepticism about Libya's reliability after what the administration had considered surprising and genuine cooperation on disarmament.
"They seem to want to correct this, but it's more than problematic. This was a disastrous statement -- from someone who normally says the right thing. Ghanem has been champion of economic reform and outreach to the West," said a State Department official familiar with the new U.S. policy on Libya who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Lifting the travel ban is considered important by both countries because it would allow U.S. oil companies to travel to Tripoli to negotiate deals with Libya's oil industry to have in place for when economic sanctions end. The administration did not specify what it expects Libya to do after Ghanem's comments. "We're only going to know the retraction when we see it -- and then we'll decide if it fills the bill," the State Department official said.
© 2004 The Washington Post Company
timer company employees say timer sold to Stasi not Libya...
bomb placed on board through Skull and Bones heroin method
at Frankfurt...CIA Monzer Al Kasser...CIA Robert Booth Nichols
...ROT CIA cutout David Lovejoy aka Lu Choi...]
http://www.sitbot.net/re/TrailOfTheOctopusGoddard
http://www.sitbot.net/re/LockerbieCoverupChasey
http://www.sitbot.net/cgi-bin/htsearch.cgi?words=lockerbie+libya+chasey
http://www.sitbot.net/cgi-bin/htsearch.cgi?words=lockerbie+booth+nichols
http://www.sitbot.net/cgi-bin/htsearch.cgi?words=lockerbie+riconisciuto
http://www.sitbot.net/htm/12477.html
From:Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:43 am
Subject: Kerry coverup Lockerbie guns drugs
Note that the week BEFORE Senator John Kerry started
winning primaries, the Washington Post reported as if a
letter posted from Libya in 1992 arrived in 2004
Senator John F. Kerry
Chairman of Subcommittee on
Terrorism, Narcotics and
International Operations
421 SROB
Washington DC 20035
USA
October 28, 1992
Dear Senator Kerry,
The Secretariat of the Libyan People's Congress on behalf of the
Libyan people is pleased to address you with respect to a
prospect for improvement of bilateral relations between the
American and the Libyan people, as well as relations between the
US and the Libyan government.
It is the view of the Libyan Arab Jemaheriya that, as long as
contacts between our two nations are suspended and the means of
communication virtually non-existent, the specter of distrust
between our nations will never be far from the surface.
Separation can generate accusation and accusation may eventually
lead to conflict.
Such has been the atmosphere which has pervaded our countries'
relations for almost a decade.
In fact we neither wish nor desire such mistrust. On the contrary,
we honestly and seriously are seeking an opportunity to
dialogue and negotiate through your good offices of Foreign
Relations, a positive change toward better relations between our
peoples and nation based on mutual respect and understanding--a
new page in our history marked by good and honorable intentions.
It is in this spirit that we are willing to discuss and come to
an agreement on:
1) Libya's willingness to renounce all world terrorism;
2) Libya's willingness to pledge not to engage in anti-government
or destabilization tactics;
3) Libya's willingness to open its borders to United Nations
inspection teams in order to assure that weapons of mass
destruction are not being manufactured;
4) Libya's willingness to deliver its two citizens accused of the
Pan Am 103 disaster provided that an international acceptable
neutral country, will be used for the trial.
Libya further extends an invitation to you and your Committee on
Terrorism, Narcotics and International Operations to visit Libya,
in your official capacity and to experience firsthand our recent
accomplishments. I will personally work with you through our
representative, Dr. William C. Chasey, to arrange this fact
finding mission. Hopefully we can meet face to face to plan your
agenda.
These accomplishments are decisive proof that Libya has never
intended to threaten anyone and in particular your country, the
United States of America, whose great assistance in our fight for
independence we shall always remember.
It is our appreciation for your kindness, honesty and integrity
which has led us to extend this invitation. We are sure that what
you will witness in our country will prove to you that the moral
philosophy of our system is deeply rooted as well.
We are confident that you and your Committee will return with the
firm belief that the time has come to mend the sorrowful rift
between our two countries.
We initiate with this letter a dialogue for the road to better
relations.
Sincerely yours,
Youssef EL DEBRI
Head of Libyan National Security
Member of the Committee to resolve
the dispute of Lockerbie
letter copied from page 74 Libyan lobbyist Chasey's book
http://www.sitbot.net/re/LockerbieCoverupChasey
Note WMD inspection and renouncing of terrorism offered
by Libya in the above letter in 1994, now compare this
October Surprise version of US-Libyan relations facilitated
by kill-the-messenger like Patriot Act--
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A50464-2004Jan26?language=printer
Legislators Optimistic After Talks With Gaddafi
By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 27, 2004; Page A14
In his first talks with U.S. legislators in almost four decades[This is a lie! Chasey's book describes a trip to Tripoli by Chasey and Congressman Carroll Hubbard in 1992! -BobD], Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi pledged yesterday to take additional steps, particularly on terrorism, to help normalize diplomatic relations with the United States.
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