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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:27:21 EDT
From: Michael R Duttera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBirch] Miller: Repeal 17th Amendment,
     Return to Appointed U.S. Senate (fwd)

I welcome this idea and wish it would pass. However in my view the reason
for the original intent of the Senate and the need for passing of an
ammendment to reinstate State Legislatures as the ones who appoint
Senators has to do with the balance/extent of overall political power and
spheres of responsibilities between the Feds and the States, and not
what's quoted below.  One of THE  main problems with the Feds these days
is that practically 99% of what they do on a day to day basis is not
allowed under the constitution!!! Their spheres of responsibility were
overtly circumscribed and limited to only what was delegated to them in
the constitution and EVERYTHING else was supposed to be in the sphere of
State responsibility and the people (i.e. local govt.).  The primary
bulwark against Federal encroachment on the States Sovereign
responsibilites was the power of the Senate in its role of preventing
such encroachment by voting down encroaching legislation since the
Senators were apponted by the folks whose power would have been usurped
by the encroachments. Actually passing this one ammendment would be THE
single most effective start towards reestablishing the intent of the
founders and would make our system MUCH MUCH better in the long run. As
it stands now power is dangerously concentrated too centrally in the
hands of the Feds and to the executive amongst the feds.  We urgently
need to disperse this concentration of power and reestablish the original
checks and balances before the Federal Govt. gets too totalitarian to
deal with without violent revolution.To be sure we need to reestablish
direct congressional control of the money supply and value as well as
fixing other things too. But most of what should be fixed needs the
Senate to represent its originally intended constituency before any
dreams on fixing other things become possible. None of the above is a
priority or even a desire of the Democrats nor even almost all of the
Republican leadership, Bush included. Bush is no constitutional
conservative, folks.
Like most of the Republican leadership he's merely a sort of
Democrat-lite. There's probably very few registered Republicans in
general who think these are vital issues. Only a scattered few like
Miller are considering some of what needs to be considered.
Mike

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:52:29 -0400 (EDT) William Bacon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Instead, he believes members of the state legislature should be
>empowered
>with the ability to choose their senators so special interest groups
>in
>Washington cannot play a role in the political landscape of the U.S.
>Senate.
[ snip]

>Indeed, the Constitution originally called for members of the U.S.
>House of
>Representatives to be elected by the voters, but the senators were
>chosen by
>state legislatures.
>
>The purpose of this was to give balance to the legislative branch by
>allowing the same representation in the U.S. Senate for each of the
>fifty
>states.


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