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Two items from readers.

1. Building Bridges: Unprecedented-The Florida Election Debacle
2. RE: 100s of Thousands Say NO to the Bush Agenda

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1.
From: Ken Nash
Subject: Building Bridges: Unprecedented-The Florida Election  Debacle
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:50:08 -0400

Building Bridges: Your Community and Labor Report -
National Edition Produced by Mimi Rosenberg and Ken
Nash presents

UNPRECENDENTED: THE FLORIDA ELECTION DEBACLE & THINGS
TO COME with producers Joan Sekler & Richard Perez

For those who regard the 2000 presidential contest as
a stolen election, the film "Unprecendented" supplies a
dossier of revealing facts about the Florida recount.
Especially telling in the is film is the story of the
tens of thousands of Black voters who were illegally
but strategically disqualified as "convicted
felons." Also included now is new material on
electronic voting to help prepare us for this year's
battle.


To download this 27:01 minute radio program at 128 kbps
go to Radio4All Download Page below:
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php?op=program-info&program_id=9914&nav=producer-directory&;
TO Listen at 24 kbps click on this link below:
http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/unprec2.mp3

Building Bridges is regularly broadcast over WBAI, 99.5 in the
N.Y.C. Area on Mondays from 7-8 PM and streamed over:
http://www.2600.com/offthehook/hot2.ram

for more information email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2.

From: Tom Siblo
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004
RE: 100s of Thousands Say NO to the Bush Agenda


WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE U.S. ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT?

DOES DEMOCRACY MATTER?

By Tom Siblo

The March in New York City is a resounding success with
some 400,000 protestors.  This is the largest turn out
since the mass demonstrations of the Freeze movement of
the 1980s.  Just what have we learned about the current
war in Iraq and the Bush Administration response to our
movement? The only way to stop Bush is to defeat him at
the polls this November. However, as a movement we are
united as far as defeating Bush or how to go about
defeating his right wing politics which he represents.

After the nightmare election of November 2000 we have
known that the great majority of Americans do not
support George Bush yet he won. He won not in the
election booths but in the legal halls of U.S. Supreme
Court.  The election process is rigged.  It is rigged
for the highest bidder and for the person with the most
amount of money.  This is because the much needed
Federal and State election funding reforms are without
any impact. We need to all recognize that as long as
any candidate for office can receive funding from
private corporate sources there will never be any real
free elections within the United States.

The truth is that as long as a few corporations can
donate millions of dollars to a Presidential campaign
then all the efforts of 450,000 or even 100 million
citizens have little or no impact on the election
process. George Bush Jr. is outspending the Kerry
campaign because it has amassed the largest amount of
funding in our entire nation's history. The more money
you have the more you can spend and line the pockets of
the mass media.

Already look at the difference between the ways CNN is
covering the Republican National Convention. This is
true with Fox and all the others. So this begs the
question. If money is used to buy the White House and
the Congress as well as the rest the state, municipal
and local elections then what chance does an
independent candidate have of gaining enough money and
donations to make an impressive showing at the voting
booths?

I have all my life supported the mass demonstrations
and I have added another feature to my political
perspectives and that is building with a long view.
Had we started after the defeat in 2000 to work on
getting laws passed that will completely eliminate
corporate funding for candidates and put into place
public funding to all who obtain enough signatures from
registered voters to be nominated for a specific
federal or state office then the face of American
politics would be transformed significantly.  Those who
do a good job will be reelected and those who do will
never get nominated. It is simple as that, however this
fall we have no such law in place and this is why what
was in 2000 a tragedy will now become truly a farce.

This is why I am joining the Democracy Matters movement
and I think everyone on this list should donate to
Democracy Matters and encourage young people to
organize chapters on their campuses to begin organizing
for clean elections as well as setting up debates
between the various candidates and organize voter
registration drives.

Democracy Matters works with both students and within
the community and it is important to stress now that
whoever wins this November does not mean the struggle
for reform of the electoral process is over.  I believe
it is just beginning.

 If anything the past four years have taught us is this
anytime someone is appointed to an elected position he
or she does not have to be responsive to the interests
or the needs of the people or the electorate. George
Bush Jr. has shown us that such is the case as it has
always been throughout history.

In order to get a better idea why I am supporting
Democracy Matters I have attached the URL of their
website.  http://www.democracymatters.org/ .

I am looking forward to this fall being one of the most
active and progressive within our history. It is my
hope that we can finally unite together and defeat
those who are trying to destroy what all of hope and
need from our government and return it back to the
hands of the people where it should have always been
left.  Sometimes it takes time for us to realize just
what exactly going on.  The most important feature of
the mass demonstration this past Sunday is that Iraq,
unemployment, and poverty are still real and important
issues to the American people rather than what is
promoted within the mass media and the press.

Democracy does matter and it is up to us to make sure
that it only gets stronger in the days, months and
years ahead.

Sincerely,

Tom Siblo
22 Russell St
Apt 1
Saugerties, New York 12477
845-246-7715


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